Bored tonight since I’m not working, and watching old Chris Hanson “To Catch A Predator” videos.
I just don’t get it. Is there something so different in having sex with a 14 year old, instead of a legal 18 year old? So different that moronic men risk jail time for it?
I just don’t get it.
Maybe it’s the only yes they’ve ever got. I assume a regular guy wouldn’t be looking for hook-ups like that. They have to be stupid if they are. The ones that get me are middle aged men, pastors, teachers and once there was a dentist. Just ridiculous. And scary.
That’s just it. Are they that stupid? It pains me that people are that stupid.
They must be. It pains me too. It makes sick knowing there are men who would do things to these young girls and boys. But we all know it’s happening. The priests and coaches, gymnastics team doctors. It allover the news. Theres some rap star in the news today who apparently has a whole group of young women he’s messed with from age 13 or so. It’s a pervasive problem that we’ve yet to see the end of. I don’t know the answer. I hope people smarter than me are working on it. I hope.
I think it’s just the way these guys are wired that they are extremely sexually attracted to juveniles. If it were unacceptable for me to have sex with women I couldn’t shut those feelings off. Even if I knew I was going to jail if I tried to have sex with a woman I’d probably end up in jail at some point.
I don’t think it’s stupid as much as it’s a very strong impulse and it’s difficult to control.
Just to be clear I’m not defending the actions of these people but I don’t think it’s pure stupidity.
Maybe, but the episodes I watched tonight, they physically saw the women (undercover agent) and they will still interested. The undercover woman was at least 18. If they are attracted to an 18 year old, why risk prison for someone younger than that? It just seems ridiculous to me.
Like zoid said, they’re attracted to underaged girls. Or rather, they’re attracted to something about the physical attributes of a 16 year old girl (+/- a few years).
It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but when the guy shows up at the house, he only catches a quick glimpse of her before she takes off for another room, right? Possibly not enough time to decide that’s not who he’d been talking to or saw pictures of, especially when he’s almost guaranteed to get laid in the next 45 minutes.
Imagine if you were only attracted to red heads and after some back and forth emails set up a time and date to meet one, specifically for sex. When you arrived she was more of a dark strawberry blonde…would you take a pass on the sex? If she pulled off her wig and revealed herself to be a brunette, would you now be attracted to brunettes as well?
The part that’s always really bugged me about the show is that the predator has, the entire time, been exchanging emails with an FBI agent or police officer posing as an underaged kid. He then gets arrested for attempting to have sex with this underaged kid that doesn’t exist. I understand that the emails and chat transcripts make it very clear that he understands her age and that he’s coming over for sex (and often bringing alcohol as well).
I also understand that this is probably someone you want off the streets. My issue has always been that since it’s not an underaged kid he’s talking to, no underaged kid has ever been involved in any part of this, can’t he argue that he knew the person he was talking to wasn’t an underaged kid, even if “she” said she was?
It’s an undercover sting. It’s just like if you make a deal to trade drugs for automatic weapons that don’t exist.
There are youtube channels of guys who take it upon themselves to do this kind of work, going into chat rooms posing as someone under the age of consent and agreeing to a meeting in a public place. The aim seems to be to confront and scare the shit, psychologically speaking, out of the guy who gets caught in order to deter this. It’s definitely more gritty and less of a template deal watching that versus the To Catch A Predator formula. It’s beyond me what legal implications this dangerous work could bring about and whether law enforcement agencies ever monitor people involved. One such vigilante is named Justin Payne. I watched him a bit a couple years ago. He actually does the whole 9 yards of sounding like children around the age of puberty and has conversations on the phone with some of these would be perps beforehand.
I’ve heard controversial things about Perverted Justice, the organization that To Catch A Predator teamed up with to produce that show. At the very least, the guys who founded it do not have clean records.
He can try, but that’s a pretty big mountain of evidence to climb over.
The men were going after an actress who was doing her best to pretend to be the age the men thought she was. I sense the man’s reaction is often mild confusion.
Apparently the perps go into chat rooms that are supposed to be for younger teens. They really shouldn’t be there in the first place.
Around 13 years ago when I was recently divorced, Yahoo! had adult oriented singles chat rooms. I had a hell of a lot of fun in them. If you hit it off with someone, you could open up a private chat window. More than a few times I’d do that and the person on the other side would admit that they were actually 16 or 17. They’d get instantly blocked on my side. I always wondered what the game of those trolls was considering that they started in an adult over 18 place.
They do it partly because it’s taboo and has an element of danger to it. Also, pedophilic disorder is a recognized mental aberration.
Who knows. Part of it is probably the power imbalance that draws them in.
I’ve heard if you experienced a trauma or stopped developing at a certain age, you end up stuck there. This can make you see similar aged people as your peers. So if something bad happened at 13 you may find yourself thinking those are your peers.
No idea. At the risk of sounding like a pervert, if you’re into 14 year olds you can date an 18 year old who looks 14 instead. Thats still very skeevy but at least it isn’t illegal.
Around the time To Catch a Predator was aired my niece was a very young teen and arguing for unmonitored internet access. My sister had been requiring a parent sit alongside my niece while she was on the internet to monitor her.
I proposed a test. I created a bare bones online account purporting to be a 13 year old teen girl. No photos. No social media. Nothing but the one account. And I logged into a Homework Help chat room and waited. Didn’t say a thing. Let’s see what would happen.
It took six minutes for a stranger to initiate a conversation. Within the course of that chat he said he was a school teacher and provided a G-rated photo of himself. And he admitted to previously engaging in sexual contact with a student in the school building where he taught.
I notified authorities in the state where he lived and they took over the account. The man was identified and prosecuted for sexual assault and for attempt to entice. He served several years in prison.
Six minutes.
The authorities asked me one other question. Who were these other people my account chatted with? One had sent them a dick pic. Those two other accounts were of adult men who initiated a conversation with a stranger who they thought was a 13 year old girl. All had initiated contact within that first six minutes.
Paedophilia is no different than Homophilia or Beastiality. It’s all abnormal shit. :rolleyes:
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This may be analogous to the free speech question: if no human being is involved, such as in a cartoon, should depiction of illegal activities be permitted?
4th US Circuit Court once said an image is illegal if it appears to be Child Porn, even if computer-generated and no human being was ever photographed.
This decision was overturned by the Supreme Court (Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition).
(Sorry, no links. All of my links to these cases no longer work and I don’t want to spend the time to update them. It’s also possible that more recent cases have altered those decisions.)