Dumbass morons on Datelines' "To Catch a Predator"

As most of you probably know, Dateline NBC, along with the somewhat controversial website Perverted Justice, will rent a house and use online decoys posing as underage girls to entice adult men to the house to have sex.

The decoys generally pose as 13 year olds in chatrooms. Now these dudes range from early twenties up to fifties or more, and sound like like sick fucks in the chats, even sending pics of their naked sorry asses.

This is not about whether these dumbfucks are somehow entrapped, or whether Perverted Justice has fucked with innocent dudes. That would be a different thread.

I just can’t fucking believe how stupid these dudes are. Christ, it seems like Dateline has a show every week. And what dumbass actually believes these chats, especially after the publicity the show has. Hell, there are a lot of upstanding people busted.

Sick dumbass fucks. What do these people see in a 13 year old child anyway.

It’s almost laughable how fucking stupid these morons are. Fucking unbelievable.

I’ve only seen two or three episodes of the show but on one I saw they got some guy for the second time. He was awaiting trial for the first one and went and did it again. Chris Hanson was all, “Um, you look really familiar.”

I saw that one too. Damn! Also, while I am sure a lot of them won’t talk, it’s amazing how many rap with Chris, and then also talk to the cops.

The little head follows its train of thought with great persistence, but little judgement.

I’m not attracted to women who are substantially younger than I am, there’s too much of a culture clash.

From a biological point of view, what is “sick” about being attracted to sexually mature young women? I’ve seen enough 13-year-olds that could easily pass for 16-year-olds. Society may legislate that anyone under 18 is a “child”, but that seems rather artificial and dependent on a specific culture.

My culture/religion considered me to be responsible for my own actions at age 13. At 17, I was in the Army, making the world safe for your SUVs.

My niece was served wine at Olive Garden at the age of 14! :eek:

Being attracted to and acting out on these ‘attractions’ with women this young are two different things.

Great, now I’ve got beer on my keyboard. Thanks a lot smartass.

Granted there is absolutely no legal distinction, but I have a problem equating wine at olive garden with shots of tequila at a dive bar.

I am in my forties, and can look at a HS cheerleader and say “Yeah, she’s a cute little thing” but that’s it.

These dudes on the show, most of whom are older than early twenties, actively chat with someone they think is 13, chat about how they want to screw them every different way, send pics of themselves jacking off, and then drive sometimes hundreds of miles to have sex with them.

At what they think is the “13” year olds parent’s house, but “Mom and Dad are out of town.” That IS fucking sick. But the point of my thread is just to say how fucking stupid these morons are.

I am not going to argue about shit like “Well,she was 13 and he was 19, or he was 22 and she was 17.” Yes teens will have sex, no problem.

It’s unknown predatory assholes like most of these fucks on the show I am talking about.
Why should say a 35 yr old guy be driving to a 13 yr old’s house to fuck her?

Part of me wants to say, “Yes, they are entrapping these fucks”, but what kind of adult male trolls chatrooms to screw 13 year old girls. So, I laugh at and castigate these sick fucks, and am glad they get busted.

Did your culture/religion consider it acceptable for you at age 13 to seek or accept sexual attentions from total strangers decades older than yourself, including receiving photos of their genitalia and getting together with them to have intercourse of various kinds?

Because if so, damn, that must have been quite a bar mitzvah party.

But of course, your culture/religion didn’t in fact accept any such thing. The vast maturity of adolescent girls are not “sexually mature young women” at age 13, even if they may be able to pass for 16. Twenty-something to fifty-something guys who are looking for 13-year-old sex partners in chat rooms are not seeking “sexually mature young women” to have some kind of equal relationship with. They are exploiting the immaturity and vulnerability of these young girls in order to make use of them sexually.

I’m not sure that sexual activity that young is optimal for maximum breeding even in a premodern (or post-apocalyptic) situation, given the higher risks of underweight/premature births and death in childbirth. Just because many males share that impulse doesn’t mean it’s a healthy one, even in a crudely reductive biological sense. And if many 13-year-olds can pass for 16, doesn’t that imply that many 16-year-olds could still be mistaken for 13 (as was very much the case for me) – and aren’t really ready for sex even if the laws in some states say they might be?

You have to draw the line somewhere.


I watched tonight’s installment too, and I wonder why they don’t make a greater effort to vary their methods. It appears that many of the pervs are beginning to get wise to the more formulaic aspects of these sting operations and are growing increasingly wary.

Do all the online decoys have to type the same lame way? Couldn’t a few of them pose as A.P.-level students near the top of their classes, with the exacting prose and pretensions to match? (A decoy could even let drop, with self-evident pride, that she/he is taking honors or A.P. classes, etc.) I’m sorry, but I could relive my life a hundred times, and never fall into l33t-speak. All the decoy online characters are similarly passive, enthusiastic, and generally not sufficiently inquisitive or suspicious of their potential hookups. You’d think a few more of these underage teens would be worried about getting pregnant, catching a venereal disease, insisting on condoms, suggesting the man pay for a motel room (out of fear of the stranger knowing where they live), etc.

Then again, they do manage to line up plenty of perverts who buy into their act, so what do I know?

If I were one of the Perverted Justice crew, I’d consider a multi-level operation in which one decoy is conspicuously more suspicious/critical/stuck up and rejects ugly, old, fat, or even “ethnic” males, while another decoy in the same chat room is their more-typical decoy (who takes all comers, no pun intended). That would be a more realistic smorgasbord of decoys, IMHO, and they could rope in everyone, including those who are too suspicious of the typical decoy. I don’t recall any of these TV sting op decoys rejecting any male, no matter what – and they’re getting some very candid photos by some very ugly guys. If I was a pervert trolling for jail bait, I’d like to think I’d be too shrewd to fall for that.

Another thing that bothers me about the decoys actors… in person, they all act out the same come-ons to one and all, regardless of their age or physical attractiveness. “Hi, come on in! Would you like a drink?”, my foot. A real teen on the verge of a sexual encounter with a stranger (especially if it involves losing her/his virginity with an ugly, perhaps unexpectedly older male on a work visa) should be a tad more diffident, even critical, no? Even the pitcher they offer looks the same from show to show.

If the decoy posters all type the same, the decoy actors are even worse. Most of them don’t seem to think this encounter thing through, even as a duff acting gig. Why the same enthusiastic welcome for one and all? Wouldn’t even a teen slut still experience some sense of uncertainty, trepidation, embarrassment, guilt, or foreboding? Most of these actors can’t even suggest a hint of the quivering excitement, curiosity, and even lust that a genuine teen slut would have to have to go through with one of these hookups. A really realistic moment of decision at the door would be for the decoy (either female or male) to just stand there for a moment, dumbstruck, as if weighing the possibilities of begging off in one way or another… perhaps to be persuaded or guilt-tripped into allowing the pervert in the door after all.

This is not just some little role-playing online game for these guys. You can find chatlogs online with a bit of searching. Some of them will freak you out.

It reeks of exploitive trash TV, but I hope Dateline keeps doing it, and there seems to be no shortage of sick idiot morons to show up.

Well, The Scrivener, they apparently have no shortage of “customers”, so I guess they don’t feel the need to vary their methods right now.

Like I said, these dudes are beyond stupid.

Also, I don’t think the decoys want to seem smart, or worried about parents or pregnancy, or in AP courses. They want to appear goofy and easily manipulated, so the marks feel like they have a stupid little girl on their hands.

Easier to coerce.

I’ve never seen the show, but I’ve heard that some of the guys they have caught watch the fucking show! That takes some serious lack of brains.

You may want to read up on the Perverted Justice web site. The PJ decoys online are not the same people on the Dateline TV programs. Neither is it entrapment.

I’m sure they’re an impartial judge of the legality of their own actions…

If you are talking to me, I have read the PJ site extensively, and also the "anti"site Corrupted Justice. I never said it was entrapment, I merely said the website is the subject of some controversy, as is the Dateline program.

Also, PJ Information First Cooordinator Del Harvey was one of the main decoys when the site started, and was also instrumental in PJ aligning with Dateline. She has appeared on many of the shows, as a rep of PJ and as a decoy in the house.
You can find her chat logs on the site.

I applaud what they do. However, there have apparently been some instances of PV screwing up. Perhaps you should research it a bit more yourself. :dubious: