Clearly, it’s Gene Wilder.
It can’t be anyone but Leo Sayer.
… And great minds think alike!
Oh, that is so awesome, thanks a trillion, Vashbul! Bravo (or brava?) and kudos to you for ending our long national nightmare.
But okay, I’ve got to say it. While Vashbul deserves tons of praise for getting the name and the hard evidence at last, and Stoid is risking an arm fracture by patting herself on the back :D, it’s kind of frustrating that no one recalls the fact that I was the one who first identified–and then had to consistently defend my contention against a fuckton of doubt–that it was the bloody November 11, 1970 episode of the Tonight Show related to the Photoplay awards, despite everyone who kept claiming that all references allegedly proved that the awards ended in 1968? Maybe Vashbul figured out it was Photoplay on his own, for all I know, but even if s/he did, I did the grunt work too. Damn it, ATTENTION MUST BE PAID.
In fact, my very first post in this thread (#68, back on April 30 – a week and 480+ posts before yours, terentii!) posited that it was a behind-the-scenes magazine/award bigwig:
So while Vashbul is absolutely the man/woman savior of the sanity of the internet, can I get some teensy recognition for all the tsuris I went through to a) find the Photoplay awards reference in the first place and b) remain staunch holding to my convictions against the tide of naysayers who insisted it was related to the Emmys/Golden Globes/Photoshipping/Men in Black? I enjoy the vindication on my own but I’m a Leo and my ego needs stroking now and then too.
But seriously: huge thanks and congrats for getting that issue, Vashbul!!! I would love to know how you decided it was Photoplay. And if it was my initial research that led you there, then I’d like to at least borrow that car everyone’s buying you on weekends.
Well I absolutely could not, would not have done it without your laudable effort. I certainly used the data mined by you and others to determine that a few phone calls and a trip to the library was worth a shot. So credit where due is hereby doled out.
But I’m guessing there ain’t gonna be a car.
Not even a little Matchbox?
Wow, that’s awesome, I’m glad to have helped, and it is *so *incredible that you were willing/able to put your feet to the pavement and get the hard proof. If a picture is worth a thousand words, the scan of the entire magazine is worth… well, I have no idea. But at least as much as Robert Young’s crazy silver jacket. Your name will be lauded in song and story for as long as the Photoplay awards were remembered.
Which, okay, was apparently not all that long. (It’s really weird that the magazine seems to have been basically forgotten despite having lasted from the very infancy of films through the end of the 1970s. Shouldn’t anyone over the age of 55 remember it? And not just here… My sister/her husband are that age, and they didn’t remember it either!)
Actually now I’m wondering… what happened to that co person who said that Carol Burnett’s employee asked her who it was, and it was def. Anthony Newley? Did that turn out to be a miscommunication?
Be fair. Carol’s not going to remember someone she may have only met that one night. She took her guess, and it was wrong but better than some, by which I mean it looked more like Newley than some of the wilder guesses out there (you know the ones I mean).
I remember Photoplay; it was pitched mainly to the ladies and my mom bought it now and then, for laughs you understand.
Oh definitely! Although IIRC she actually won the Photoplay four times(!)–I think that might’ve been a record (maybe tied with John Wayne?)–so of any living winner, she probably had a better chance than almost anyone else to remember the poor guy.
One thing’s for sure: we probably all owe poor Peter Mark Richman an apology! First nagging him, then assuming he’s senile.
I don’t think you’re being serious, but just in case, Leo Sayer was unknown in 1970. He didn’t start having hits until 1974.
Vashbul - I’m serious about paying for a membership for you, if you want one. I think it’s the least I could do - this thread’s given me more than $15.00 worth enjoyment/aggravation.
StG
And what is Johnny holding? It’s something that’s about the size of a record album, but obviously thicker.
I thought at first it might be a box set of some kind, but blowing the picture up, it looks instead like it could be something in a frame (hole for hanging it at the top?) So maybe a framed gold record or something?
Just as with MM, there’s something familiar-looking about that guy.
What the hell…this has been such a fun thread, we might as well keep it going!
I’m not sure if that particular picture is actually from 1970. But no, I wasn’t serious.
Many kudos are due you for your efforts in determining the date of the show and the reason for the guests’ appearances. But since we’re giving ourselves credit where due, I feel compelled to point out that I was the first to suggest that perhaps MM wasn’t an actor but a behind the scenes executive of some sort. This from post #43:
Hey! I was the first one to say it wasn’t Sid Caesar. Also the first to suggest it was Zelig. We’ve all got some firsts in this thread.
Thus the wink smilie.
Kudos to choie, too, of course.
I’m pretty confident it’s not LBJ.
Maybe they were separated at birth? :dubious:
Thanks for doing this. (I thought about posting something on his Facebook page, but when I looked at it didn’t see anything about this; I didn’t remember who in the thread had been in touch with him.)
Well, yes. He might be pleased to have the information (to give to anyone else who comes across The Photo online in the future), or he might want the whole thing to go away. But at least you made the effort to give him some closure!
Believe it or not, I just got a reply a few minutes ago! Here is what he said: