Champion-of-Truth and his "sources"

“The State of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there. That’s good enough for me.”

You were paraphrasing, dumbass!

Not me, I’m having fun taxonomizing the fool. It is rare that I agree with Ann Coulter*, what it is clear that the more he lionizes her the more the fool the old COoT looks like. :smiley:

  • And Bill O’Reilly, The National Review and many right wing sources that are better (Not by much) than World Net Daily.

Don’t you hate when they take head but don’t give any?

The state that issued the birth certificate determines whether or not it’s valid. Every other state is required to accept it as proof of whatever the state of issue accepts it as. If Hawaii says it’s proof of birth in Hawaii, then all 49 other states are required to accept it as such, period. Arizona isn’t allowed to say “but it’s not a long form birth certificate, so we won’t accept it,” because Arizona has no role in determining what is and isn’t valid as far as Hawaiian birth certificates go.

Document classification is the responsibility of the executive branch, so the president pretty much gets to decide for himself what security clearance he has.

So, wait, once someone gets into the Oval Office, even if he’s really an alien spy from Arcturus 7 pretending to be a Senator from New Jersey, he’s got free reign, because he can give himself the power to look at any document he wants?

That seems a little odd. Or else I’m misunderstanding.

Nope, you’re not misunderstanding. The entire classification system is created by executive order of the president, actually.

Really? Damn. I’ll have to look harder. Oh well. I really should go to bed – all this bullshit is going to give me nightmares.

And you think this is something to be proud of why?

I tell you, reading stuff from a WONJCT is just like reading spam E-mail subject lines. I’m very curious why they’re so incompetent with the English language. To wit:

Ann’s dismissal of birthers is a major point of disagreement? :dubious:

What proof would you accept? Do you have to physically see and inspect the long-form birth certificate for yourself? Would you know how to recognize a forgery, or analyze the paper in a lab? Hypothetically, if it had passed your inspection, would you expect like-minded people to take your word it was genuine; or is there anyone whose testimony would convince you it was genuine?

Lets be precise, he is complaining that some people in Kenya claim that Obama was/is not eligible. He has told us many times that he is not a birther, so we have to deduce that the COoT is despairing that those poor birther people in Kenya will suffer severe damage by not being able to analyze or inspect the paper in their labs… :smiley:

Yes, that still sounds retarded even in legal terms, AFAIK when one pretends not to be the harmed party while acting butt hurt in this issue, and it is even more retarded when one realizes that there are no relatives of Obama complaining about this issue.

I can see a kernel of intelligence in the failed attempt at distancing himself from being branded as the birther that he is.

Wait, he claims he’s NOT a birther? So he’s a birther wanna-be? He doesn’t have the chops to be a birther? He’s one-step-above-a-birther in the crackpot heirarchy? Excellent.

I still don’t get how the birthers (and the not posh enough to be a birther contingent) are going to be happy, even in a theoretical sense - obviously they’ll never be happy in the real world, since they don’t visit. Are they all going to line up at the state document repository in Hawai’i and each take a week or two to examine the documents, using their forensic skills learned from CSI? Since none of them will accept an analysis done by anyone else, this would seem their only solution.

Let me just say that I was polite enough to you. I didn’t insult you; I didn’t call you names. Yet, in your first comment to me, because you don’t like my statement, you call me an idiot. I’ll also point out that I haven’t asked you any questions. It’s a bad show, sir. A bad show, indeed.

Rush O’Reilly, champion of truth!

Just curious, what is it with all the damn trolls the board has attracted lately? There’s this guy. There’s the Catholic guy who got banned a few days back. There’s AshenLady, who also got banned. It’s only February and I believe we’ve already exceeded our yearly quota of crazy.

I have to agree. You were very civil, and yet you were savaged like you’d cornered a rabid badger.

Damn. Rabid Badger - that would be a great username.

I think they’re all socks of each other. In general they do seem to come in waves like that-remember Poptech and his little buddy?

You guys are all missing the real point. You see, there is nothing “natural” about miscegenation, so there’s no way Obama can be a “natural” born anything. Sheesh, it’s like fighting ignorance all over again!

Careful John Mace, you will be branded an idiot like COT did to** Captain Amazing**. :slight_smile:

It is really sad that in his foolish attempts of continuing to beat a dead horse, the old COoT is even willing to insult even the Dopers that lean conservative.

I think terryobrien or whoever was legit. He linked to his youtube profile, and if you did a search on it, he also posts a bunch of crap at various Catholic and/or generic Christian boards. (One seemed to have banned him). So he’s a troll yeah, but I don’t think he was a sock.