Cheddar Lives Madder

Scientists have managed a full nuclear genome sequence for the 10,000-year-old “Cheddar Man” skeleton–and found that his skin was considerably less pink than certain quarters will be happy with.

Shouldn’t someone named “Cheddar Man” be orange? :stuck_out_tongue:

Interesting, but we won’t know for sure until we clone him.

Might be Trump ancestor…better be careful there…

Why did they give him a smirk? Maybe he was a miserable bastard.

I dunno, if 10,000 years from now I was the prototypical example of modern North Americans, I’d be smirking too.

Other studies have found the combination of dark skin and blue eyes in other ancient Europeans, like this one from Spain.

In contrast, the more recent Otzi the Ice Man from about 5,000 years ago had brown eyes. Reconstructions show pale skin but I haven’t found cites that that’s based on genetic analysis.

It’s amazing how quickly traits like that can turn over, in a population. I guess the peppered moth is the classic example, but their lifespans are much shorter. Still, on a scale of 10,000 years…

Did I read somewhere that not only red hair but pale skin is likely a Neanderthal thing?

Apparently blue eyes were a recent genetic developement…one wonders how many of said children were thought gods and how many thought demons…

Also, read recently that red heads will eventually die out…

I’m not an expert, just an interested amateur, but I seem to recall reading that the red hair allele in Neanderthals is a different allele than the red hair in H. sapiens. So while both groups had red haired individuals the hair was red due to unrelated genes. Each species evolved red hair on its own at some point, they did not get it from a common ancestor.

Definitely a Trump ancestor, then.

They won’t. That’s like saying blue eyes are going to die out or the “white race” is going to die out. Red heads might become less common but nothing is eliminating the gene(s) from the human race. The traits will still exist no matter how mixed-race our descendants.

Might even be related to me :slight_smile:

Neanderthals had a gene variant that produced red hair and pale skin. Modern humans have a similar variant, but it is not exactly the same nor derived from that in Neanderthals. This would then represent a case of convergent evolution. As shown in the results mentioned above, pale skin became prevalent in Europe only tens of thousands of years after Neanderthals were extinct.

In contrast to the way we usually think of them, red-haired pale-skinned Neanderthals may have confronted dark-haired dark-skinned Cro Magnons.

Sounds easily possible. Lactose tolerance has evolved in human populations in different ways Lactase persistence - Wikipedia

So you’re saying it will grate on them?

Wow, you munster.

I can just imagine the Tories at the time raving on about how those light skin immigrants are going to ruin Britain.

“Demned foreigners goin’ round tearing up the soil to plant seeds. It’s not natural! Things grow where they grow! You can’t go around planting things where they’re not growing! Then they chase off perfectly good animals they should be eatin’ just so’s they don’t eat their barley. And they act like they OWN that little patch of ground they’re squatin’ on! Nobody owns land! Someone should do somethin’ ‘bout it, I rekon, before they start marryin’ our kids!”

The bad news is that Thog is going to bash your skull in when you’re 22. The good news is 10,000 years from now people will be playing with your skull.