Cheering of Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Obvious Lie - No discussion of Obama

And…? Your point…? I don’t see how a comment referring to the specific issue of slavery from the man who penned “…all men are created equal…”—at a time when slavery was allowed by law—is relevant to my post or Wright. Other than, of course, you wishing it to be.

Unless—you’re saying that the theist Jefferson meant that God would visit great ugliness upon the United States and that Wright is an example of that ugliness. In that case, I’d have to admit that you make an interesting observation. :wink:

Much has been written on this…but am I correct in that the mercury-based treatments for syphilis available back then (the 1930’s) were both dangerous and not 100 % effective? When convicts today (volunteer) for experimental drug trials,are they fully informed about the risks?
Anybody know all the details of the TE?

Probably as close as you’re likely to get. It’ll do.

Short version is that the government found some people who were sick with syphillus and wanted to find out what happened over the course of the disease, with close medical observation. it wasn’t an experiment as most people think of it. There really was no useful treatment at the time (they were all toxic and rather ineffective). And at the start it was intended as philithropy for a poor section of the population.

The doctors involved later expanded their study, which is when they started down a bad path. This was after the stock market crash, and the original backers had stopped the early work for lack of money. I think the government got involved then.

Over time, the situation got worse and worse. They lied about treatments, stopped patients from getting them (!), even overriding the army (!!) during World War II (!!!). The CDC went along with this, as did the AMA and NMA (an association of black phsycians(!).

Racism no doubt played a part, but I think it was primarily a matter of doctors becoming more and more involved in their study as it spiralled out of bounds of all sense. Simply put, it was a totally illogical study, and was continued long, long after it served any use.