Chefs: Answer a Salad Question

In an effort to be a svelte, lanky supermodel before I turn thirty in a year, I’ve decided to eat more salads. I bought a ton of fresh vegetables, grilled up some chicken, bought a lovely dressing, some delicious croutons, a variety of lettuces.

And I’ll tell you something. I’m a pretty good cook. I love cooking. I cook all the time and am consistently showered with compliments. But I cannot figure out this salad thing! YES, salad!

So what is it about salad in a restaurant that makes it taste a thousand times different than salad at home? And don’t say ‘because someone else made it for you’. That’s not it. The texture and tastes of lettuces seem DIFFERENT at home and I don’t get it.

jarbaby

I don’t reckon much to store bought dressings.
Try making your own dressing rather than using a bought one.

Off the top of my head, I’d suggest my Dad’s recipe for vinaigrette.

1 dessert spoon of wine vinegar, 3 dessert spoons of olive oil (this is the time and place to use extra-virgin), a small clove of garlic, a smidge of mustard (I use Dijon mustard), a good grind of black pepper, a pinch of salt and a wee pinch of demerara sugar.

Crush the garlic up with the sugar and salt. Add the mustard, oil and vinegar. Stir it up. Add black pepper. There you go. It should do enough for 2 people at least. Don’t worry about the fat content. It’s a piddling little amount of fat.

You could try a honey and mustard dressing, which is olive oil, wholegrain mustard, balsamic vinegar, not too much honey, salt and pepper.

As a general rule, use three times as much oil as vinegar. Don’t put too much salt in.

Do you have a garden? If so, try growing your own lettuce. If you lived nearer I’d give you some lettuce. I have a veritable forest of lettuce in my back garden, and I don’t eat enough salad to keep up with it.

Ah, the age old question. “Why do my salads suck”?

A lot of it depends on where you get your produce. Farmer’s markets or roadside stands are the best. If you get your stuff from the supermarket, usually it’s a lot blander. Plus, restaurants are able to store lettuce and stuff better. The average refrigerator “crisper” aka “wilt box”, just doesn’t cut it, but it helps to wrap a couple paper towels around the lettuce and change em when they get wet. Don’t seal the bag, and don’t have apples or tomatoes in the same drawer. Iceberg will last about two weeks. The other types will last about one week. Dressings are another one. If you go for a vinaigrette, forget it. Look at how many types of oils, vinegars and other acids (oranges, lemons, etc…) there are. My grandmother made a simple garlic vinaigrette that my familiy has been trying to duplicate for, no lie, some 15 years now without success. Use the best quality and freshest stuff you can find, store it well and you should be able to get what you are looking for, or at least close to it:) Just before making a salad, sometimes I will dip the leaves into ice water real quick then shake them dry. It still doesn’t duplicate a good restaurant, but it helps a little. Good luck:)

Having been a hash slinger for a little bit, I might add a few observations. For one, the lettuce is fresher, because restaurants use a ton of it and it is freshly washed and chilled by the time it is used. For another, most bulk salads are chopped and mixed in a huge mass, rapidly, then chilled and not allowed time to wilt or age. A secret is to keep greens, like lettuce types, celery and wiltables like spinach and parsley in chilled water until needed. It keeps them crisp.

Wilted greens can be restored if you soak them in chilled water for several hours. Try it. Add greed food coloring to the water and they’ll draw it up and look greener.

Salad dressings, oils, vinegar’s and such come in bulk containers. Fresh dressings are time honored recipes, made fast and sure. Nothing sits around long in a restaurant kitchen in the way of greens, including spicy types like onions, garlic, fresh sage and so on. The storage of fresh greens is also larger, being in bigger refrigerators, which are opened and closed more than yours at home. Often, we stored big bowls of already sliced and diced green, red and yellow peppers, ripped up lettuce, and shredded onions in these things, prepared that morning for the lunch and dinner rush, and emptied them frequently.

I preferred not to use those damn salad shredders and if I had to, I made sure to remove things from the peppers, like the core and seeds that certain, predominate, popular restaurants of common type do not do.

Then again, a stranger will not fix your salad they way you do, nor the dressing and after he or she has done it around 10,000 times, it becomes more or less a habit to fix it in a certain way. Like, you already know how much Mayo is on a spoon to plop in, or how much pepper comes out of the shaker in a dash, or how much crushed garlic to scoop up from the condiment bowl and even how hard to rub a clove of garlic on the inner side of the glass surface by habit. Cooks don’t think about it, they just do it and do it fast. Every surface, in a good restaurant, is also kept clean and their tomatoes do not sit in the fridge, half sliced, for the night.

I also find that cooks making my salads make them taste different from what I make and it depends on the restaurant. No sub shop is going to make a good salad, nor is a Wendy’s, Burger King or MacDonalds, The Italian eatery down the place will, so will that medium priced restaurant and that Rib place and if you buy a salad wrapped in plastic wrap, well, don’t expect miracles.

A last thought here also. Some places, due to the need for speed, make up their own dressings in the morning in big quantities, then pre-make salads in big bowls, using the minimum of veggies. A green salad might consist only of chunks of lettuce, with a little green pepper and onion and a few chunks of tomato wedges scooped from a standing bowl and dropped on top. Premade salads will consist mainly of the cheapest vegetables, usually lettuce, that will not easily wilt, looks good and holds up well to being placed in a view through display on ice for you but the longer a salad sits, dressed or undressed, the more it will change it’s flavor.

Fresh is best.

First, the reason why restaurant food in general often tastes better than home-prepared meals is that chefs don’t go overboard in restricting their use of fats, salts, and sugars–all three of which give oomph to cooking, as do fresh herbs which are a thousand times better than the dried abomination. Sorry, Twiggy, many restaurant salads are loaded with calories.

Variety makes for a great salad, as does it being served chilled. Consider using an expensive basalmic vinegar, and then choose from walnut chunks, almond slivers, avocado, radichio, raisans or currants, capers, artichoke hearts, carrot slivers, fresh feta or parmesan, Mandarin orange slices, or a drizzle of genuine maple syrup to give lots of extra interest. Lightly tossing the salad lets the dressing soak in better and sometimes makes a startling difference. Again, serve on a chilled plate with chilled fork. Fresh ground pepper and a trace of salt also add wow. Cheesy or no, use a Salad Spinner to rid the extra water after lightly rinsing with cold water. Serve with a great loaf of bread and a nice wine. Focus on visual and olfactory interest as much as on taste. Serve by candlelight while wearing a black negligee.

Fresh, very rare salmon, tuna and beef slices make a great addition to any salad too.

If you use a Salad Spinner, make sure you use the leaves immediately. They work good but bruise them, so if you spin em and let em sit a bit, they will wilt up much faster than if you use paper towels. But dry leaves let your dressing stick to them. Wet lettuce is a bad thing.

What? You mean my Cobb Salad isn’t low-fat?

Yeouch! Cobb salad is one of the worst offenders. Though receipes vary, expect at many restaurants the following food values for a Cobb salad:

Calories 840
Protein 38g
Total Fat 70g
Sodium 1032mg
Cholesterol 251mg
Carbohydrates 14g
Fiber 6g

Sure, it’s protein dense, but look at the fat! That’s more than a full day’s worth. Also too much sodium and cholesterol. We want our jarbabyj looking sleek and sexy, not like an old nag.

BTW, I should have spelled it as “raisins” and “radicchio.”
Chilled beets, mushrooms and fresh corn kernels also add interest.

I really wish you hadn’t posted that. I knew that my beloved Cobbs weren’t “health food”, but I didn’t need to know the numbers. :frowning:

Being on a low-carb, high-protein diet, I am cut loose from a lot of restrictions that would turn salad into a chore.

Start with a wide variety of both soft and crunchy greens. I adore arugula. I also use baby spinach and a nice mix of baby lettuces, and for crunch I use romaine.

I put ice water in the salad spinner, then add the lettuces and let them soak in it while I prep everything else.

As others have pointed out, quality is everything. Most supermarket produce blows. I get my tomatoes at Trader joes, which sells them on the vine (they keep much longer that way. Also NEVER REFRIGERATE TOMATOES. That’s the best way in the world to make them lose flavor) And lately they’ve had cherry toms called “sweet 100” that are amazing. They’re so sweet they’re like actualy cherries.

I keep the veges simple…the lettuces, tomatoes, cuke, sliced mushroom, avocado. Sometimes I’ll throw in a bit of more serious vegetable, like cauliflower, which I love raw, or red pepper, but that’s my base.

Then I add (again, I’m blessed by living in LA and having Trader Joes…can’t imagine life without 'em) sliced peppered turkey, a few chopped slices of this amazing pepperoni, some grilled chicken, maybe some beef prosciutto… Sometimes a boiled egg…and the topper is always, always, shaved paremesano reggiano. Lots of it. I just use a knife on a chunk of it and cover the whole salad with shavings.

And for a dressing? Well, most bottled dressings blow. But I am currently hooked on, of all things, Paul Newman’s Caesar. It’s delicious. Perfect balance of flavors. Try it. the creamy variety is ok, but the original is yummy.

Freshly ground pepper and sea salt, and the final secret is ** thorough ** tossing with not too much dressing. What seems like too little is plenty if you toss well enough.

stoid

Wowza. Thanks all. I’m fascinated at how many people say to soak the lettuce in water…because usually my main complaint is that my salads…taste like water. I mean, even after squeezing the lettuce to death in towels and stuff, it’s still wet and the dressing doesn’t cling like it does on the Pompeii Chicken Ceasar salad, which I’m trying to duplicate at home (with low fat Ceasar of course), Like tsunami said, I don’t want to look like an old nag :smiley:

jarbaby

rinse lightly, don’t soak.

P.S. Remember the black negligee.

The low-fat dressings may be part of the problem. I have never found one that I really liked. Try making or buying better, more strongly-flavored dressings and just using a lot less; you’ll be surprised. Also, the thing that makes dressing stick to leaves is…oil, so the low-fat ones aren’t going to stick as well.

Another trick is cheese; you’re going for flavor here, so buy good cheese and use less rather than using a lot of Kraft.

I keep a Tupperware bowl of either romaine or red leaf and red onions (my salad base) in my fridge at all times, cut up but unrinsed, with a paper towel on top of the lettuce to soak up a lot of the ambient moisture. I rinse it as I use it. I’ve taken a liking lately to Emeril Lagasse’s bottled dressings; they’re not light, but you don’t need very much of them to flavor a whole salad.

My dinner, at least 2-3 nights a week, is to cut up and saute a chicken breast in lemon juice and Tony’s Creole Seasoning and serve it on top of the above salad with some crusty French bread.

Dr. J

I forgot to mention red onion…it’s a must.

And as for the rinse vs. soak… well, I am into clean lettuce, and I will never forget the Dateline that tested lettuces for E. coli and other nasty stuff, and even the stuff in the bags is pretty skanky. No thanks. And the soaking in the ice water perks it up nicely. Lettuce is mostly water, you’re hardly doing it any harm.

But if you are serious about salad, it isimperative that you invest $20 in a good salad spinner. It is like a whole different universe. Towels just don’t cut it.

stoid