chess game: glee v treis

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6

Just to stop Bc1-g5

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6
  7. OO

h7-h6 is not necessary. It’s to prevent Bc1-g5 pinning the knight on f6, but:

  • that isn’t a strong move by me, since the knight on f6 isn’t needed for defence.
  • if I do play Bc1-g5, h7-h6 in reply forces the bishop to do something.

To be fair, the position is not very dynamic, so a loss of time is not so serious. I’ll keep developing and hope Black ‘sees’ more threats (which aren’t really there :eek: )

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6
  7. OO Bf8-d6

[spoiler] I did this move for two reasons. The first is that it is a good spot for my dark bishop and it allows me to castle king side when needed. The second reason I did this is that f4 is probably the best spot for glee’s dark bishop. However he can’t move there now because after I take his bishop and he retakes his King side pawn structure will be very weak.

It’s still pretty unclear what is going to happen in the game. I will continue to develop my pieces and look to take advantage of any weaknesses that form in his structure. [/spoiler]

[slight hijack]
This is an excellent way to watch a game develop! (Where are you getting your game boards Treis?)
It’s great to “hear” the thought process as the game is playing out.
[/slight hijack]

[spoiler]I usually look for key developments in the opening at the 5th, 8th and 10th moves. That has more to do with my own play than with anything else, but I think it’s going to hold true for this match.

A simplistic interpretation, and one I use for myself when I’m playing, is pawn -vs piece development. Black has only incidental piece development and h7-h6 move seems reactionary to me; another pawn move that only weakens his king side pawns. I find it very telling that he didn’t mention it in his earlier considerations of the game (unless I missed it).

Black is going to have a lot of work to do developing his Queenside Bishop and Knight. If he aims to castle before move 10, they won’t help him at all in moving into the middle game.[/spoiler]

Winboard. Just print screen and copy/paste into paint. It’s nice because you can save a game in algebraic as a .txt file and it will open it up as a chess board. You can then arrow through the moves or play it as a movie.

move 7

h7-h6 is always a possibility to prevent a knight pin. Since all of our pawns are on white, the black bishops are going to be very powerful this game. I suppose I could have waited for him to move his bishop there, but it’s a situation I’d rather avoid. If I had waited and done h7-h6 then he could have retreated to h4. True, I could then trap the bishop and take it, but in doing so I would destroy my King’s pawn protection. I might be wrong on this point, but I think it was better to keep that bishop away from pinning my knight.

My light bishop is going to go to b7, and my Queen’s knight is going to head to d7 and then on to c5 or e5. e5 especially is going to probably be a good square for my knight.

I’m going to hold off on castling until I see where his attack is going to come from.

More speculation, and some thoughts on how the game is going (responding to SixSwords). Hope you don’t mind the chatter:

Black may be a little behind in development, but it seems his plan is moving smoothly. I think he can get it going pretty soon with the way White is playing. Queenside knight on c5 and light bishop on a6 seems a good position, and likely to happen within three moves.

White seems to be playing a bit slower game, despite the edge in development. It’s not like I don’t think he has a plan, he just seems to be taking more time to perfect it. Perhaps it will be stronger as a result, perhaps not.

The next four moves will be interesting.

I think we’re all kind of wondering about h7-h6, though. I’m not sure I get the need for a ‘pre-emptive’ reaction move in this case. (Not that it’s a mistake, it just doesn’t seem to contribute much).

I don’t think this needs spoilering.
I like the h7 move more after B to d6. White’s c1 bishop doesn’t have many possibilities.
BTW, panamajack I PM’d you to keep my less-than-insightful comments out of the thread.

I think Treis might be winning on the clock at any rate!

Has glee run off to Brazil to shack up with an exotic dancer?
(explanatory link)

If he doesn’t come back soon I’m going to have to start playing with myself!

Maybe treis’s last move was a stunning innovation that has taken us out of standard opening theory?

Am I the only person sad enough to have been following this game on a magnetic travel set?

Treis takes his own pawn en passant and repeatedly fianchettos the bishop crying, “J’adoube!” until white takes advantage of the overworked piece, breaks through the center and wins with a smothered mate.

The players skip the post-game handshake.

Damn fine idea.
The chess world has plenty of nerds + geeks - we need more exotic dancers! :cool:

Actually I’ve been away on a school trip.

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6
  7. OO Bf8-d6
  8. Qd1-a4

[spoiler] The idea is to weaken the Black chain of pawns along the h1-a8 diagonal. The Q on a4 pins the pawn on c6, so I can consider c4xd5, when Black has to recapture with the e6 pawn and the c6 pawn may become weak.
Qa4 also prepares b2-b4 and then b4-b5, also undermining the pawns.

It looks as if I am just allowing 8. …OO and then 9. …e5 by Black, but experience shows that the resulting pawn centre can be attacked.

  1. … a7-a5 certainly slows b2-b4, but the b6 pawn may then become weak…
    [/spoiler]

I doubt this particular game has been played before at master level!

White has not been ambitious, while Black has spent time on unnecessary pawn move(s).

However the beauty of chess is that original positions keep coming up…

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6
  7. OO Bf8-d6
  8. Qd1-a4 Nb8-d7

move8 pic link didn’t work, treis

Derr that was a stupid move. I’m going to take that back and play:

White Black
Glee Treis

  1. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
  2. c2-c4 Ng8-f6
  3. Nb1-c3 b7-b6
  4. g2-g3 d7-d5
  5. Bf1-g2 c7-c6
  6. d2-d3 h7-h6
  7. OO Bf8-d6
  8. Qd1-a4 Bc8-b7