Child Support

OK…I’m not asking for legal advise- I’m just wondering if I decided to pursue would it even be worth it.

My “step dad” legally adopted me when I was about 9 years old.
Before he adopted me, my biological father was sending my mother money. He had asked my mother to have the money stopped.

My mom is on SSI, so when they got divorced, she couldn’t afford an attorney and used legal aid. The legal aid lawyer specialized in housing and didn’t know much about divorce.

My step dad on the other hand had hired a divorce attorney.

During the trial, he called me his step daughter and requested not to pay child support for me.The judge didn’t even look at the adoption papers (which happened to be filed in the same courthouse). When everything was settled, my mom received no child support for me, but he did have to keep me on his health insurance until I finished college or turned 25- whichever happened first. He was also responsible for 70% of the bills.

Im now 23 and over 20k in medical debit because of him. I was registered for school and became extremely ill and was admitted into the hospital. Because I wasn’t in school for about a month, he dropped me from the insurance without my knowledge and no one was informed until I was lying in a hospital bed. He has never paid a dime towards my medical bills,even before he dropped my coverage and anytime I tell him I need it, he tells me to take him to court.

I (unfortunately) still carry his last name and had called him ‘dad’ from the time I was 3. I have no idea how he got out of paying support for a child he legally adopted but now Im suffering because of it.

Im wondering if I would even have a shot to try to sue him for the child support / medical bills.

Talk to a lawyer; this thread will probally end up closed. Does you college have a law school? They usually have legal clinics of some kind.

IANAL and have no expertise whatsoever, but yes I think you should pursue it somehow. The problem is, to find out how to proceed you would need a lawyer, but you have no money, so how do you get the lawyer? That is the tragedy of our legal system… justice costs money, because you need a lawyer to get justice.

I suppose you could see a legal aid lawyer, and then do some research on your own and sue your “dad” pro se (representing yourself).

Either way, your “dad” is a dick and deserves to face some sort of consequences.

Child support goes to the other parent, so if he did owe money, it would be to your mother. But since he wasn’t ordered to pay, he doesn’t owe support. It does sound like he was supposed to keep you on the insurance and, if you haven’t finished college and he dropped you from the insurance, you probably have a case regarding medical bills.

There are plenty of free and/or low cost attorneys available, and a lot of them are very good. Pro Se litigants are, for the most part, idiots. There’s absolutely no reason not to have an actual lawyer.

Child support goes to the other parent to help raise the child. Once someone reaches the age of 18 the support is supposed to go directly to them (although it rarely ever does).

Even though he wasnt ordered to pay the support, I cant see how that happened since he legally adopted me. Thats why Im thinking I can sue for the back support if I can afford a real lawyer.

Because of not having any medical, I had no choice but to get a full time job…and with my medical history I cant do both full time. Now not only did I never get the chance to finish school, I am “making too much” to be able to get legal aid. (Which is complete bull because if I were to even try to pay my medical bills, I would have nothing to live on.)

I have nothing to add, but I just wanted to say, good luck.

You might try talking to the Child Support Enforcement office near you. I’m not sure if they’ll open a case for you or if they’ll only deal with your mother, but they should be able to explain the law a little and tell you if you have a case. If nothing else, you might pick up a little pre-knowledge for when talking to a lawyer.

Thanks guys…and I really appreciate the support.

Actually in most states, child support stops at age 18, as the person is no longer a child.

Not necessarily. When my parents got divorced (in Illinois), the decree specified that both parents were to contribute to the children’s college education according to their ability. The idea is that the children are supposed to have the same opportunities that they would have if their parents had stayed together.

Exactly. Child support surpasses the age of 18 when the child goes into college and is supposed to continue until they finish. (Unless the judge specifies an age that the support should stop at) In addition to the child support during college, most of the time the parent who makes more is supposed to contribute a larger portion to college tuition after the child has exhausted all financial aid/loans available to them.

Lucky for “my dad” he got out of paying any tuition. Because my mom is disabled, financial aid covers us 100%…as long as we stay full time.

Those are negotiated child support settlements between two parties. When the state get’s involved, only in certain states is child support mandated beyond the age of 18. Do some research and find out for yourself.

Here’s some info.

http://www.ncsl.org/IssuesResearch/HumanServices/TerminationofChildSupportandSupportBeyondMa/tabid/16441/Default.aspx

What state are you in?

I’m sure she’ll be happy with only 18 years worth of back support if that were to be the outcome.

I’d be happy if my daughter’s mother, who isn’t paying her support and likely never will, dumps a suitcase of cash on me later on.

You can’t get “back” child support. From the limited facts in the OP’s request for legal advice, there was never an order entered requiring that the guy pay child support. There might have been an order re: medical insurance, but that’s completely different, and doesn’t have much to do with child support.

(Note that in paternity/parentage cases in some states you can get child support dating back to the child’s date of birth in some circumstances, but that isn’t at issue here.)

Fubaya: did you get a child support order against your babymomma? If not, she doesn’t owe you anything. If you have an order, then you can garnish wages, etc. Most states have enforcement people that handle these cases for free.

Of course, you can always GET a child support order if you don’t have one, which is always a good idea. I see way too many people who don’t want to bother or think they are being hostile if they take the other parent to court. Don’t be one of those people.

Depending on the state, you can get retroactive child support but it doesn’t seem likely in this situation since it was already in court and remained unordered, plus her age.

Of course I have an order but you can’t garnish wages that she doesn’t have. I could make her life hell but there’s not much point in that.

Canada has some different legal rulings based on different laws, but - the principle here and there is that the money is owed to the child, not the other parent; support is an obligation to the child. It is paid to the custodial parent because the child is a minor and the parent is the one paying for the house, food, etc. of which the child consumes a share. Hence no matter what the finances of either parent, normally a parent owes their fair share to the child.

Obviously, if a judge was a dick way back when, and for whatever reason said the non-custodial parent owes nothing, then… he owes nothing. If you get that reversed, it would only be going forward.

I recall talking to a lawyer once and he mentioned the system, especially at the bottom, is as much an old boy’s club with nudges and winks as much as it is about justice. A prominent and duly respectful family-law specialist and the judges he appears before probably have a professional relationship that trumps the letter of the law. Unless the case is blatantly impossible to rule otherwise, the “friend” will get what he wants. This is why hiring a “good” lawyer (one with a good reputation in the locale) is the first step to winning.

Technically, an adoption means the new parent assumes the same obligations as a biological one. If the judge rules otherwise, there was some serious nudge-nudge-wink-wink going on.

I’m surprised if your mother was on social assistance that the state did not pursue him. Some places, they WILL chase a parent who is able to pay, in order to recoup some of the welfare paid out. Even a single mother does not want the father’s money, welfare will sometimes even threaten to cut off support if the father is not identified and go to the steps of ordering a DNA test if the father objects to paying.

In Canada, it does not even take adoption. A man “acting in the role of parent” for a decent length of time (as little as a year) has been held liable for child support when the common-law marriage broke up. The court here ruled that “once established, the parental relationship is not something that can be unilaterally broken”.

IANAL!! In your case - this is why they pay lawyers and there are books and books of precedents to dig through. If the father is obliged to support you medically while you are full time at school, then being hospitalized should not count. I guess it depends on several things that may help your case- does the college recognize “medical leave”? (I.e. “I’ll be back next semester”?) The logical argument is that if you were covered for hospitalization (you were for a month) then the possibility that you would need on-going coverage for an extended stay, may need to sit out half a semester and still be considered “full-time”, etc. was implicit in that order. The Law makes logical inferences and does not need EVERY case spelled out in minute detail. I bet somewhere some parents sued an HMO who tried this same weasel tactic to deny coverage to an over-age child. (Knowing HMO’s, I bet there are already a large number of such cases!) This is why you pay the “good” lawyers and this is why it is important to fight it. I’m sure there is a correct way to phrase the arguments in court, but you and I haven’t a clue how to do it.

The climate has changed concerning child support and the dick judge is probably long gone, so a good lawyer would also probably also be able to make a good case for child support going forward too if daddy dearest is being such a jerk. Some judges also like to stretch judgements whichever way to reinforce the learning experience for parents who act like dicks.

The previous advice is good - if your campus has a legal clinic or law school, that would be a good place to start. Also, in the wonderful land of contingency fees, maybe they can point you to a good lawyer who will take the case in return for making daddy pay 30% extra for him.

I was actually trying to see if was possible to get the divorce decree ruling overturned and for him to have to pay the “back” child support for me. Even if it is from the time they were separated until I turned 18, that would be enough to help me with some of my medical expenses.

Also, I now live in NY but the divorce took place in NJ, which is where Im sure I would have to file a suite if I go through with this.