China, poison, again! (RO? Maybe...)

Nicaragua seizes tainted toothpaste from China
6,000 tubes suspected of containing deadly chemical used in antifreeze

I sense a trade embargo in the future if this keeps up. :mad: It seems to me that there is a pattern, and that it isn’t accidental. I doubt I am mistaken in this intuition either. There is too much “coincidence” in poisoned grain being exported, and now toothpaste. :dubious: I’ll be watching to see what other nations are doing with regards to this.

While I doubt it’s a conspiracy, I’ve been reading some more about some very nasty stuff coming out of China. No controls - it’s half state industry anyway, and no concern over consumer safety. Besides, who cares if the foreigners get hurt by it, right?

Adding, even if it isn’t a deliberately underhanded way of harming other nations, it is still disregard for the health and safety of others, all for the sake of saving money in production costs! I still see a trade embargo on the horizon at this rate.

ETA: Exactly, smiling bandit!

I really don’t see this as any kind of deliberate conspiracy. They want their trade surpluses much more than they want to damage “the foreigners” with tainted products.

It’s all about taking chances and cutting corners to save money. AFAICT, there is no more concern shown for the safety of manufactured products for domestic use than for exported ones.

Are you out of your mind? What do you suggest? North Korea doing it to blackmail Bejing? China doing it to poision South Americans?

QA in Chinese-owned manufacturing is sometimes non-existent.

And there are some amoral sumbitches out there.

Think the OP’s story is bad? What about the motherfucker a few years ago who labelled up a bulk lot of [something like] flour marked up as baby formula. It ended up in the markets, and dozens of babies starved to death.

It isn’t a conspiracy, it’s just that China’s exporting a hell of a lot more stuff these days, and some of that stuff has compromised quality.

Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by cupidity. Here’s a case I heard about when I was in China. A business purchasing red blood cells and platelets was reinjecting the plasma back into the sellers. It’s a fairly common practice, done in the states for red blood cell donors as well.

A major difference in China is that the for profit business running the operation commingled all of the plasma in a vat and divided it up among the sellers. It ended up causing an HIV/AIDS crisis in Henan Province. It was made worse by denial on the part of the authorities, who believed that AIDS was only carried by foreigners.

See post number 3.

I can still see several countries refusing Chinese exports until China puts some (enforced, up to certain standards set by the U.N. or whatever body would properly have say) quality control measures in place.

Here is a story that seems to indicate that China is starting to take these problems seriously.

China sentences ex-top drug regulator to death.

I said in a thread about the pet food scandal that I expect that someone will get executed for it, and this tells me that is a real possibility. China does not like corruption, or things that threaten their economy.

Now if they could be motivated (by the idea of lack of income if they don’t) to care about the well being of their citizens that’d be even nicer…

Baby steps.

Yeah, I know. sigh Still burns me up how little regard those companies (and by a history of lack of legislation, the Government) have for their people.

This has been a big story here too, where some company illegally brought the toothpaste into the country and there’s a massive recall going on.

I for one would not use any toiletry or food coming out of China (and a bunch of other countries too). Sorry, too much of that going on. This is a third world country and as far as I recall we have never had any of that, so it’s not that hard to not poison people.

I’ll buy their plastic trinkets though.

What country is “here”, Mighty_Girl? :confused:

About two years ago, there was a big scare here in relation to kimchi imported from China, something about tainted vegetables. People all over the country decided they would go back to making their own kimchi at home. Odd thing, though, is the vegetables they used were imported from China!

Ack! :smack: Did anyone get sick from it, Monty?

The problem is you don’t know. The dog food no doubt said it was made in the USA.

As for the Chinese government, their first reaction always seems to be that they didn’t do it, and their second that people are acting inappropriately to question the quality of Chinese goods. Only when there is a threat of losing foreign currency do they act. If they cared about improving the situation, they would have let the papers cover it. The NY Times reported multiple cases of Chinese people dying because of this crap - not that the government seemed to care.

:smack:

Dominican Republic. Sorry, I always forget that some people don’t know we are the center of the universe. :wink:

Tainted toothpaste shows up in US.