Civil Trial: Trump v E. Jean Carroll (Carroll wins, awarded $5 million, plus 83.3 million)

Someday, somehow, he will have to pay. He can’t evade forever. I think him paying $83M to this woman that is below his “I’d rape her” standards will be a tough pill for him to swallow.

How long before the court rules on Trump’s appeal here? Given that there was only half an hour of arguments, I can’t imagine there are any complicated legal issues here.

That’s a good question Odesio. I’ve looked for the next date but not seen it yet. I was wondering where Trump got a stat for his little speech yesterday that only 4% of lower Manhattan are Republicans . That’s some imagination he’s got.

That’s an exercise in futility.

That’s not unusual. Typically each side gets 10, 15, or 20 minutes to argue. A decision could be as fast as 3 weeks or as slow as 6 or 8 months. I’d guess 60 days. Or a little more to be past Election Day

You know how some people read tea leaves? He reads his diaper.

I am struggling to find any updates on this trial. Has the appeal process just halted indefinitely?

no, no it has not.

Appeals court rejects Trump’s attempt to overturn E. Jean Carroll verdict
The panel ruled Monday that the judge’s decision to allow the jury to hear that evidence was proper and that “the district court did not abuse its discretion in making any of the challenged evidentiary rulings.”

“The jury made its assessment of the facts and claims on a properly developed record,” the judges wrote in the ruling.

of course this is first appeal for the 5 million. the 83.3 million is still to go. the 5 million should make its way to ms carroll with alacrity as the amount is being held in escrow.

I assume they’ll try a cert petition to the US Supreme Court. Odds are against it working, but the effort will delay things 6 to 9 months.

The appellate court, in Monday’s opinion, decided the tape was admissible “as evidence of a pattern” of alleged behavior by Trump.

“The jury could have reasonably concluded from those statements that, in the past, Mr. Trump had kissed women without their consent and then proceeded to touch their genitalia,” the opinion said.

i did find the above particularly interesting.

at least for the full 5 million e jean carroll doesn’t have to go through what the women are going through with guiliani

So does she now get the money, or does the can get kicked further down the road?

She now legally can get the money. It will be difficult to collect.

Unless Trump applies to the Supreme Court for cert., which could delay enforcement.

That’s not clear. Trump could oppose collection, as @DrDeth suggests.

Trump has also put it out there that he might throw her in jail.

For what exactly?

Lèse-majesté.

Ah, you mean “ Lèse-majesté (or lese majesty , as it is also styled in English publications) came into English by way of Middle French, from the Latin laesa majestas , which literally means “injured majesty.” The English term can conceivably cover any offense against a sovereign power or its ruler, from treason to a simple breach of etiquette, but lèse-majesté has also acquired a more lighthearted or ironic meaning, referring to something that insults or shows disrespect, especially to a particularly pompous or self-important person or organization. As such, it may be applied to a relatively inoffensive act that has been exaggeratedly treated as if it were a great affront.” – Merriam-Webster

This NY Times (gift) article explains why. He re-truthed something that said “Should a woman go to jail for falsely accusing a man for rape” and it included a picture of Carroll.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/nyregion/trump-carroll-appeal-denied.html?unlocked_article_code=1.l04.9VMS.5mNHNRxGGT1S&smid=url-share

Lets hope he gets sued again for that, and this time it costs him a billion.