Aaaand the Justice Department has turned up even more classified documents at Biden’s residence, including some that date back to his time in the Senate.
What a fucking shit show. There’s gonna be so much crow shoved down so many throats.
There were six items. If they had searched more slowly, they could have announced one each week and kept this in the news cycle until March.
I heard a roundtable participant on This Week say (paraphrasing):
Not as bad as Trump should not be “the bar”.
‘Not obstructing justice like Trump plainly has’ is a perfectly reasonable bar.
Keeping the classified information where it belongs is my bar. As the kids are saying, YMMV.
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Seriously, Biden fucked up. But he’s not claiming that the shit belongs to him. Like some delusional fuckers do.
Doesn’t it all depend on what’s in the docs, both for Trump and Biden? If Biden’s documents are just routine, over-classified stuff that he might have taken home and forgotten, this will probably blow over. If those documents contain serious information that would benefit overseas interests, then this is just getting started and Biden is in big trouble. Trump too if that’s the case.
Both of them were careless idiots. Which one is worse depends on the content of the material they took.
No, it doesn’t all depend on that, because you seem to be conveniently forgetting other aspects that might differentiate the cases. Whether there was subsequent obstruction of justice in returning documents. If there was information that would benefit overseas interests - then what they did with the documents, or what evidence there is about what they intended to do with them.
Both of them were at least careless idiots, and which one is worse depends on a lot more than just the content.
If Biden knew he had the documents wouldn’t he have moved them to a secure location? Or is it not possible for the President to smuggle classified documents in and some extra documents would have been noticed?
No.
Which one is worse depends on the law.
Here’s the law: 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
Here’s the part that Trump is guilty of breaking and Biden is nowhere close to breaking.
willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
There’s several other parts that clearly apply to Trump and not to Biden.
Then there’s: 18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy
Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
My bold.
This is the law Trump broke defying a lawful subpoena. Biden hasn’t done anything close to this.
If you think of it as two people showing up late for work, one guy apologizes and says he had car problems, in fact he calls in ahead of time apologizing for not being able to show up on time. The other guy comes in late, says he’ll show up when he wants to, and keeps coming in late every day for months. When confronted about it he gets into shouting matches with his supervisor.
If you say what matters is how late each person is, you miss the point.
Also, I don’t think I’d describe either of them as careless based on what we know at this point.
We don’t know that Biden was involved at all in the documents being transported to his home or office. It not carelessness to assume that White House staff did their jobs correctly.
And we do know that Trump deliberately chose to take things he believed to belong to him and some of those things were classified documents. That’s not carelessness either. That’s criminal intent.
Not to mention their responses to each incident. Biden’s people responded as they should have done when documents were discovered (though why they haven’t since scoured all of the Penn Biden center top to bottom is beyond me). Trump’s did not act correctly.
I listened to a podcast where they explained Biden’s error as a battle between the lawyers and the press people. One wants it all out in the open ASAP to let it blow over quickly, and the other doesn’t want to step on any Justice Department toes. Both make sense.
I suppose leaving documents m Mar-A-Lago in an unsecured location after internationally stealing them could be considered careless.
Also… confessing to stealing documents on Truth Social is careless, I guess.
I think they were only stolen within the boundaries of the US. 
I’ve said this before, but unless reports come out about numerous other high-level officials mishandling classified documents, this does look bad for Joe.
I wouldn’t mind if this pushed him to be a 1-termer.
I wonder when some other Democratic senator or congressman, perhaps retired, will step forward and declare, “Look what was found in the files from my days in office. We found them doing a search and have turned them over to the DOJ. It can happen to anyone!” They’d probably get a (quiet) thank you from Joe Biden.