I posted a cite. You posted nothing in response to it except your opinion. This is Great Debates. Maybe you could start a thread in My Humble Opinion on the subject.
That is so stupid. I have given you my experiences since I actually attended occupation. You on the other hand are sitting in your living room claiming knowledge you do not have. You are making up objections to downplay the occupations.
The one giving opinion with no facts ,is you. But the fact that you can not even understand that is stunning.
You drove to New York? Really? Look up at the title of the thread. Wall Street Occupiers. Not whinny Detroit wanna-be occupiers that live near gonzomax. I posted a cite related directly to the thread. It was not by accident.
If I wanted to comment on whinny Detroit wanna-be Wall Street occupiers I would have mentioned that their protest of BoA directly helped the bank in their quest to eliminate nuisance depositors. Which is funny given the lack of an actual addressable protest platform.
So this begs the question, without an addressable platform when will the “occupiers” decided they’ve won or lost and depart. And when will city administrators decide that occupancy of public space without permits invites an unending line of similar misuse. Some cities have already had enough of the nonsense and dealt with it as they should have on day one.
MAGIVER , I have tried to treat your arguments as real even though you are reaching way, way up your sphincter to come up with them. I went to the General assembly today in Occupy Detroit. It is the loudest thing they do since they use the “peoples mic”. I walked to Woodward which is a perimeter street and could not hear anything. So your argument about noise is as usual, unfounded. So your record is intact. A perfect zero.
Funny, you claim some insight while sitting in the middle of Ohio. Yet deny anybody else’s, even if they are involved. You are accepting anything that you imagine buttresses your arguments ,yet so far none have.
I think you missed his point. He has been commenting on the Occupy Wall Street protest, as per the OP. This is on Wall Street…in Manhattan…in New York City…in New York state. You are in Detroit…in the state Michigan.
ENOUGH.
Everyone, knock off the personal comments.
If this is just going to be one more content free bitch fest, it will be closed and you can all use your own efforts to open a new thread in The BBQ Pit.
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I’ve never been to New York, but just a quick google…
Also:
EPA Identifies Noise Levels Affecting Health and Welfare
So Manhattan is already well in excess of what people consider noisy.
OWS which is occupy Wall Street has over 1000 demos. They are called OWS for a reason.
I would think the OP was attempting to impugn all of them or he would have been specific. But my counter was to show that all of them are not that way. As a matter of fact the NY-OWS was taking care of the homeless for a long time.
And yet the local citizens are complaining about the noise. Must be pretty annoying to have a park full of little drummer boys next to you.
Again, this movement has no set goals and is driven by people who are draining the local resources with no discernible end in sight.
Just to give you a fuller picture…
I lived and worked in Manhattan for over 4 years, and travel back frequently. And while it is true that it can be VERY noisy, that’s mainly in the heart of the city and then, only during business hours. You can walk around Grand Central Station after 8PM and it’s pretty quiet, except for maybe the 42nd street side. But even there, it will not be loud at all. You leave these main areas and even during the daytime it can be rather quiet. After hours, though, it’s quiet almost all over. If you’re on one of the major avenues you can hear cars and some buses, but that’s about it. Off the avenues, after 6:00, noise is not an issue at all. It’s not like being in the middle of a Nebraska cornfield, but is quiet.
New York is a loud place. Maybe they should learn to deal, or cite the noise ordnance being violated.
Occupy Wall Street protesters driven by varying goals
So there you have it. They want to get people thinking.
The corruption of the government is not a big problem. The destruction of the world economy, no biggie. But noise. Now that’s a problem. We can not fix the government or the economic system until MAGIVER deals with the perceived noise.
And then we have to deal with whether the Wall Street protests function includes feeding the homeless. It was a job for the government in the old days. Now the OWS have to take care of it.
“End financial aid to Israel”; “End greed, end poverty, end war”; “No death penalty”; “Tired of racism” is there discernible goals? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa.
Are we suppose to bury them in the park after they die of old age waiting for an end to greed and poverty? The only thing they’re 99 percent of is the moon baby crowd.
Yes, these protestors are quiet the movers and shakers. So far they’ve asked for rainbows and kittens and in exchange they provide valuable tent cities and noise. Don Quixote moon babies.
I gave you an honest answer, that they’re trying to get the country to think about it’s problems.
Well that’s fine but the lack of discernible goals was my point. It’s not like we don’t know there are problems in the world.
Well, if their goal was simply to annoy the shit out of you, they’ve done a bang up job.
Well me and the other cities where they’ve been invited to leave (by force).
Yes well clearly we have more problems than usual, problems that wouldn’t have happened if the government was representing the people, not the greediest corporations.
For example you’d think passing a law preventing banks from taking the kind of risks that trashed the economy and put a lot of Americans on the street would be an obvious thing.
Volcker Rule, Once Simple, Now Boggles
Clearly bankers have more toadies sucking their cock in Congress than the people have actual representatives.