CLee, a word (or 500). AKA - the next JayDub pile on thread

Your OP said it would be, guess you are a profit, huh?

and look, by JW quoting guidelines - you just verified the primary purpose of the Watchtower -

Miller asked who was making the JWs look worse, CLee with his cogent analysis of all that was wrong with them, or you with your misguided defence of them which laid bare all that is, in fact, wrong.

Jsgoddess then stated that CLee wasn’t even in the running, that it was between you and the other brainwashed cultard, and that you are both powerfully stupid.

Which you have amply demonstrated is the case for you, at least. You appear utterly incapable of original thought, and also unable to handle your emotions. You regurgitate words you’ve heard from your superiors, and have no clue what to do when you get questions they didn’t prepare you for. Then, you get pissed off. That, of course is a natural human reaction - but one that you have been (falsely) taught is wrong, and that should be suppressed, so you oscillate between guilty snark and fake cheeriness, like some sort of low budget Catholic used car salesman.

Your “religion” is demonstrably false. Well, all of them are, but yours particularly. You mistranslate the bible, and still can’t interpret it in a non-contradictory way, you fuck up every time you predict the end of the world, and you can’t even win an argument on the internet.

CLee said you think Satan rules the world. You demanded to know where on Earth she came up with such a wacky notion, objected to her statement, and then said that you believe Satan rules the world because it’s in the Bible.

Your entire defense (if I may be so generous as to describe it this way) is like that.

I.e.: You can’t say we think Satan is in charge of the world when we think Satan is in charge of the world because BIBLE!

No, we think you murder your own children. The ones that, supposedly, your God entrusted you to look after. Instead, you either let them die of easily treatable conditions or drive them from your community and to suicide.

You are scum, nothing more, nothing less. Your god, should he exist, is evil and deserving of nothing but contempt.

Eh, I agree with the latter but not the former. I don’t think JWs are scum, just deluded people with an ugly agenda. Uber and dougie appear to be particularly stupid people, and Uber is a bigot, but still just people.

I know!

That totally cracked me up. Uber basically just confirmed everything CLee wrote, but basically says he does not like her to say it because it’s mean.

Those directly involved in the senseless death of a child refused a transfusion and those who drive ex-members to suicide via shunning are pretty scummy. And since those orders come from the top of the pyramid, all of the elders are pretty scummy, too.

But they only do that because Bible! So you’re wrong.

(or something like that. I think Uber would say it in a much more convoluted fashion…)

Yeah, I’ll agree with all of that.

In another thread, he argued that of COURSE he has a problem with gays because he’s a JW and believes in the Bible. In this one, he demands to know how CLee can assume all JWs have a problem with gays. OMIGOD, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, CLEEEEEEEE?

In yet another thread, gosh, he was just so sorry to hear that a member’s mother had been shunned. He was so sorry that happened! And then he turned around and said how effective shunning was.

He defends himself by pointing to the doctrine (he just has no choice!) then defends the doctrine by claiming they are all individuals (how can you possibly say we’re all homophobes!)

It probably works on some audiences. He’s certainly not the first religious person I’ve seen trying to spin that one.

At best, cherry picking to maintain continuity of your position. At worst, intentional twisting of context to present the idea you want.

Whatever works for you I guess. Isn’t that what you’re accusing me of doing, and calling me a Bad Person for?

Not sure who you’re responding to - but we (or atleast I) don’t claim to be a member of “God’s Organization” or proclaimers of the ‘truth’ - we’re just heathens, remember? You, due to your being a representative of that org, are held to a higher standard… apparently, you can’t meet it.

Or is this just another “see, I’m just as bad as everyone else is” ?

I was at a New Year’s Eve party with a JW. At midnight, everyone shouted “Happy New Year.” He said, a bit sadly, “I can’t say that.”

I said to him, “Happy new day.” He brightened right up. “I can say that! Happy new day!”

If JW’s deserve any hate, its because of this. Fuck whatever god that won’t let someone enjoy a holiday

I’m starting to think the people who get shunned just have a brilliant plan to stop being pestered by JWs.

Put it in Great Debates, where a civil discussion is possible. Sell me exactly what you would sell my lonely, senile widowed neighbor next door on a Saturday morning. Let’s hear your Good News!

He won’t - he can’t ‘control’ the conversation - I’d love to see it tho.

These are my favorite kind of Pittings. :smiley:

And then go fuck yourself.

No. Because no matter what good you and your cult may or may not do, you kill your children. That outweighs it all. And, it’s utterly wrong according to the bible you claim to follow. There are at least two parts in it where, even if you think you’ve been commanded to kill a child, even by god himself, it’s wrong to do it. One is Solomon commanding the women to fight over the baby, and the other is god commanding Abraham to sacrifice his son.

And that’s evil old testament god as well.

You don’t do it accidentally. You know it happens, and you support it. I’ve read the threads where you support the refusal of blood, and where you support shunning - or as we in the real world call it, bullying. At best, you may have never considered the consequences of your actions, and those of your cult leaders. Well, do so now. If it takes you longer than, say, 5 minutes to realise that they are unadulterated evil, then you are, as I said before, scum.