Clinton Slips Leash; Jennings Critical

Well, then I apologize. The rest still stands.

I have over 5k posts. I doubt more than 10% of my posts were political. Rose whatever has how many posts? And they are all political.

Do we compare?

No.

Good point.

Wormy, at least, has actual content in his OPs.

I hope someone remembered to drive a stake through his black, ugly heart before they turned the screws on the lid of his coffin.

Yep, finally did watch it.

A: The Newsmax “transcript” is very selective, incomplete, and a ridiculous judgment of what actually occurred.

B: Your perception of it is a startling, sad, depressing and infuriating example of the jaw-dropping gyrations Clinton Hater brains go through when you consider him. The funhouse mirror effect your (weird and baseless) hatred has on your perception is astonishing.

I think you read that wrong. After examining Monica’s dress, they said Clinton was viscous. :wink:

Nixon the last liberal president, my rosy red ass! That’s some serious revisionism going on there, boys. For reasons related to not having had enough coffee yet, I’ll only mention here that he was one of the driving forces behind the late and unlamented House Un-American Activities Committee. Nixon was a conservative through and through.

I couldn’t agree more. The way I remember it, an indiscreet Republican operative, posing as an intern, walked in on the President and his wife at an inopportune moment and took photographs, which she published on the Internet. The President called an immediate press conference, confessed that the incident occurred, and apologized to Americans for being disrespectful of their Oval Office. The Republicans, not content with the President’s admission and apology, tortured and drugged dozens of Democratic Congressmen until there were sufficient numbers to impeach him. A renegade judge then issued a contempt of court citation for no reason other than she was on the rag. Almost four years later, the former President wrote a book that tanked, costing him a fortune and forcing him to retire poor and unheralded, living off the meager income of his wife, now a Little Rock travel agent.

You know, someday you should try quitting while you are ahead. I was willing to let things go last night (I was pretty tired, for one thing), and personally, I don’t much give a damn what subjects you happen to post on, but the above-quoted remark is utterly preposterous, and you know it.

Just to make sure I wasn’t imagining things, I looked up your last 200 posts just to see where they fall, subject-wise. By my count, 118, or 59%, were either were posted in a thread on a political subject or made a political statement of some sort. Hey, maybe up to a certain date you posted nothing but muffin recipes and film reviews, but please don’t try claim that your current output is not highly political.

Now, you don’t like that I compared you to Roseworm and suggested that you post just to get a rise out of people. OK, fair enough, I withdraw that comparison. Where you two do have a similarity, however is in apparently launching political threads not because of the relative significance or importance of the subject, but simply to have a thread containing negative information related to your particular political obsession always visible. In other words, both of you seem to be using this board mostly as an advertising medium, not for sincere, open discussion. Now, I recognize that since your recent exile you’ve been a quite a bit better about that than in the past, but the fact remains that for the past year or two, you’ve been doing much the same thing as Roseworm’s been doing here. IMHO.

So, if a president gets impeached over lying about sex (of all things), but he’s wealthy, it’s all OK? If people find his memoires worthy of purchase, he has no cause to complain? If his wife is brilliant and successful in her own right, all perceptions of injustice should simply evaporate in a moment of karmic balance?

Bullshit. All presidents enjoy the spoils of their tenure after it’s over, as consultants, authors, on the lecture circuit, etc. Even Nixon wrote a book or two of note, and despite having been pardoned of an actual crime (for which nearly all his cohorts cooled their heels in the slammer), he couldn’t help but spend unrepentant amounts of time rehabilitating his image. Reagan slipped into senile immunity from the press, and Bush Sr., well he’s got friends in high places, so I suppose he’s never had to worry about having to answer for Iran-Contra. Oddly, nobody in the press seems interested in picking the guy’s brain about it any longer. I guess “I was out of the loop” shall suffice for all time. One might argue that his wealth should make him more beholden, but I really don’t think it’s relevant to guilt or innocence, nor one’s sense that justice was or was not served.

Apparently. Of course, Clinton didn’t lie about sex. Well, he did, but that’s not why the judge slapped him with contempt of court. She cited him because “the record leaves no doubt that the President violated this Court’s discovery Orders regarding disclosure of information deemed by this Court to be relevant to plaintiff’s lawsuit.”

http://www.ardemgaz.com/prev/clinton/wrightsorder13.html

A punishable offense for which he was fined, censured, and disbarred; all appropriate (though, when one considers the sleaze of some of his colleagues, Clinton may understandably consider even the last punishment a tad harsh). But impeachment? Especially when the one perjury was about blowjobs?

Hmm… Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the case. Discussing this with you is like playing chess with a man who has never heard of capturing en passant.

You’re so full of shit. This issue has been dealt with, to death, and the details are everywhere.

He gets sued for alleged past harassment, is asked about current dalliances, lies about that, is found in contempt, settles the prior case and all other chages are dropped. Paula got her money for her decade-old grief; that pretty much should have been the end of the story. People instead want to drag Zippergate into his testimony before the Grand Jury, impeach him for it, and he is aquitted. So, the guy lies on the stand about getting blowjobs, gets his requisite slap on the wrist, is further disbarred, and the Republican reaction is “he got off easy”. They further want to say he obstructed justice, again, about nothing but a sex scandal, for which no article of impeachment had anything really to do except lying about a recent extramarital affair under oath. Aquittal ensues. Nothing more of legal importance came of it, or should have, because it was a spectacular mountain out of a prurient molehill; and all anybody remembers now is The Dress. And how did we get here? Ken Starr’s scattershot approach to rabidly tangential investigation of all possible wrongdoing ever? It’s a sad example of what Americans like to fixate on when they prioritize what’s wrong with govt. They could, say, focus on partisan abuse of the Constitution for the sole purpose of destoying a man by any means available, but that’s just way too complicated for a juicy sound bite. Of course, sophists like yourself will dabble in prurience and silly insults and pretend to have principles and sincere misgivings about abuse of “justice”. Pathetic.

[QUOTE=Loopydude But impeachment? Especially when the one perjury was about blowjobs?[/QUOTE]

Precisely.

As Clinton pointed out in the interview we are here discussing, the vast majority of Constitutional scholars found the impeachment illegal and unconstitutional, and Newt Gingrich himself admitted that it was purely political.

It was bullshit, from start to finish.

But Loopy, we’re talking about Republicans. They have proven that they are the putrid slime of American politics, so why drive yourself to despair hoping for anything but the most vile behavior? Exect the worst and you won’t be disappointed.(disclaimer before people start having cows: unless and until I specifically include Republican voters in my references to Republicans, it should always be understood to mean Republican politicians and pundits. And that there are exceptions, such as John McCain, who, to preserve his integrity, really should bail on the party. I comfort myself that he remains simply to try and effect change from within. Although stumping for Bush was pretty shocking and almost certainly gave him ulcers)

Gah! The whole issue just makes me so upset and disgusted I can’t talk about it anymore. I’m sick to death of hearing about Bill Clinton’s semen, and just plain repulsed by the conservative habit of trotting out Presidential Spooge at the slightest provocation and pretending they care about obstruction of justice, of all fucking things. The bileful irony of it is beyond nauseating, and I just can’t fucking stand it anymore. I’m out. I want to take a shower after every discussion of this nature, not the least because it’s so fucking pointless. Pubs just love bringing up Clinton’s dick, end of story. I’m ashamed of myself for even approaching tis futile subject yet again, as if I wouldn’t come out gagging on the reek of stale fluids. Enough. Peter Jennings can fuck off and die if he thinks informing us involves wallowing in this filth yet again, and the rest can do the same if they continue to feel vindicated by that sordid chapter of American history. Gag me and get me the fuck out of here, double fast.

This sentence is horrifying on so many levels.

Hear hear. What this country needs is the liberal equivalent of Richard M. Scaife. Then we could really sit back and watch the fur fly.

Your spin is interesting. In a case of civil rights violations, a woman is abused and manipulated by a powerful white man who is not only her employer, but her governor. He continues to deny her her rights, even as the depositions and trial are underway, by obstructing justice and lying under oath. He has the emotional maturity of a twelve-year-old boy and is delusional and psychotic, living in denial and shaking his finger at the people whose rights he swore to protect. There is a long history of allegations from women who were his underlings that range from harassment to rape. And you get all pissy, call the whole thing “a blowjob” and hurl insults at people who criticize him. I wish your party would hurry and finish self-destructing. It is time for liberals who champion the rights of individuals to re-emerge and push you leftists back out on the fringe where you belong.

“UNDER OATH!” is the rallying cry of the historically illiterate, but at least it makes these poor unfortunate clueless, militantly ignorant souls easy to recognize. Life is a tuxedo, m’boy, and you are a pair of brown shoes.