College Football realignment

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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If I had the power to realign US college football D-1 conferences, here’s how I’d do it. (I’m using current confernece names for conience).

Big East
Army
BC
Syracuse
Temple
Rutgers
UConn
Georgetown
Villanova
Seton Hall
Notre Dame
St. John’s

Big 10
Pitt
Penn St
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Ohio St
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Iowa St

Big 12
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas St
TCU
SMU
UTEP
Baylor
Rice
Tulsa
Houson

WAC
Idaho
Idaho St
Montana
Montana St
Utah
Utah St
Weber St
New Mexico
New Mexico St
Colorado
Colorado St
Arizona
Arizona St
Wyoming
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Nevada
Fresno St
SJSU
SDSU
Sacramento St
Portland St
E Washington
N Arizona
S Utah
Hawaii

SEC
Florida
Florida St
Miami
Georgia
GA Tech
Clemson
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Arkansas
Mississippi St
Ole Miss

ACC
VA Tech
Virginia
West Virginia
UNC
NC St
Duke
Wake Forrest
E Carolina
W Carolina
Maryland

Pac-10
Washington
Wash St
Oregon
Oregon St
USC
Cal-Berkley
UCLA
Stanford

C-USA
Louisville
So Miss
UAB
Arkansas St
Tulane
Memphis
La Tech
Cent FL
Middle Tenn St
La-Monroe
La-Layfyette
No Texas
E Kentucky
W Kentucky
Navy

MAC
Marshall
Cincinnati
Akron
Ohio
Miami-OH
Bowling Green
Toledo
Kent St
N IL
W MI
E MI
Cent MI
E IL
S IL
W IL
Indiana St
IL State
Ball St
Dayton

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Obviously I’ve pretty much eliminated the need for I-AA. (and yes, I am posting solely to get this to the top).

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BTW, thanx Munch. I wanted to get schools with teams that goegraphically make the most sense. I wanted schools in the same school in the same conferences, where feasible, w/o ruining major conferences’ history’s. I also wanted uniformity in b-ball and football.

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Duh! Schools in the same STATE in the same conference.

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Do you talk to yourself like this, often? :rolleyes:

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I can edit my posts so I need to. BTW, I’d move Marshall into the ACC.

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I can’t edit my posts so I need to. BTW, I’d move Marshall into the ACC.

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I see your vision of the Big East doesn’t give Notre Dame much competition. Sort of a “Big Wuss” division? :wink:

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Is the Big 10/11 going to be the Big 10 or The Big 13?

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Not to mention the Pac-8.

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Which is in fact what the Pac-10 used to be, until the Arizona schools joined in the late 70s or early 80s (not sure exactly what year).

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Big 11 (what Big Ten really is) becomes Great Lakes Conference, Big XII becomes Big XV.

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and why, exactly, was this needed? I like the Pac 10 just how it is, thank you.

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You’ve got 28 teams in the WAC!

What up with that? They only play eleven games a season.

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Way to divide up WAC: Four Corner rivalries plus Weber St., Idaho rivals, Montana rivals. rest get own conference. Way to divide up MAC (which is just as unwieldy): Ohio and Michigan schools in one conference, Illinois and Indiana schools in another. BTW, check out my b-ball thread if you wanna see HUGE conferences!

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Why take manageably (?) sized conferences and make them unwieldy large?* For instance, take the Big XII. Currently, you’ve got 2 divisions of 6 teams, the winner of each going to a conference championship. Each team plays everyone in their division every year, and rotates 3 teams from the other division each year, for a total of 9 conference games a year.

This is simplicity at it’s finest. While I hate the Big XII and everything they stand for, they do have this conference thing down pat. Adding 3 teams to it does nothing but complicate things, destroy any semblance of parity, and makes inter-conference comparison nearly impossible.

Conferences should be forced to have 10-14 teams each (no more, certainly no less), and have a conference title game. It’s completely hogwash when Northwestern wins the Big Ten because (a) they didn’t play Michigan or Ohio St. and (b) because there was no tie-breaker of common opponent (or NW had the same record against common opponents), the deciding factor was that Northwestern had gone the longest without a Rose Bowl.

28 teams in one conference is kooky talk.

Putting teams like UTEP in a major conference do nothing but hurt UTEP and hurt the rest of that conference. Why? UTEP doesn’t want to be in a big conference. They don’t want to spend huge amounts of money trying to keep up with Texas, Oklahama and Nebraska. They don’t like being pummelled each year by Texas, Oklahoma or Nebraska. If they did, they’d play them (I know K-State would jump at the chance for another creampuff on their schedule).

UT, OU and Neb. don’t want UTEP in their conference because they don’t want to give UTEP their hardearned bowl booty. Hell, they don’t even like giving Baylor their hardearned bowl booty each year, but they have to.

You say you want uniformity, but this plan tosses uniformity right out the window and into a big pile of dog crap. I’ve known a lot of football players, and to a man, none of them like their uniforms covered in dog crap.

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Oops.

Two more points.

Also, you mention that you want to both keep teams in the same state, but also maintain existing conference rivalry. Then why did you put Notre Dame in the Big East? ND is in Indiana, along with Indiana and Purdue. They have an incredibly long-standing series with Purdue and Michigan St., as well as a fairly established rivalry with Michigan. There’s also a fair bit of history with Penn St., though not nearly to the extent as those other teams. They’ve play Pitt fairly regularly, so the move to the Big East isn’t so bad in that department, except for the fact that you moved Pitt to the Big Ten.

Secondly, I forgot to make fun of my first sentence in the above post, which is, I believe, the most confusing thing I’ve ever written.

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What is/are the Four Corner rivalries? Please expand a little.

And I saw your b-ball thread. I thought the schools were in one conference for all sports. For example, UCLA would not be in the Pac 10 in football, and the WAC in basketball.

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For Corner States: Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona. If UCLA is in the WAC for b-ball, it shouldn’t off course. To Munch: ITA about ND, but wouldn’t you agree them in the “Big Ten” kills the Big East?

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Here while this is not perfect it is more balanced and would be much better, IMO.

Big East
Maryland
Army
Navy
BC
Syracuse
Temple
Rutgers
Pitt
Penn St
Marshall
VA Tech
Virginia
West Virginia

Big 10
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
Purdue
Notre Dame
Ohio St
Cincinnati
Akron
Ohio
Miami-OH
Bowling Green
Toledo
Kent St
W MI
E MI
Cent MI
Indiana St
Ball St
Dayton
Big 12
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa
Iowa St
Tulsa
Colorado
Colorado St

SWC
Houston
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
TCU
SMU
UTEP
Baylor
Rice
No Texas

WAC
Idaho
Idaho St
Montana
Montana St
Utah
Utah St
New Mexico
New Mexico St
Arizona
Arizona St
Wyoming
BYU
Air Force
UNLV
Nevada
N Arizona
SEC
So Miss
UAB
Arkansas St
Tulane
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Arkansas
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
La-Monroe
La-Layfyette
La Tech

ACC
Florida
Florida St
Miami
Georgia
GA Tech
UNC
NC St
Duke
Wake Forrest
E Carolina
W Carolina
Clemson
South Carolina
Cent FL

Pac-10
Washington
Wash St
Oregon
Oregon St
USC
Cal-Berkley
UCLA
Stanford
Hawaii
Fresno St
SJSU
SDSU
Sacramento St
Portland St
E Washington

C-USA
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
Middle Tenn St
E Kentucky
W Kentucky
N IL
Northwestern
Illinois
E IL
S IL
W IL
IL State
Minnesota
Wisconsin
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