… against an unranked (checks UGA’s schedule…and adds “at the time”) team.
UGA has wins against ~4 ranked teams. OSU has wins against 3 ranked teams… ranked around 23.
LSU has 2 overtime losses against Tennessee and South Carolina (the REAL USC).
I really don’t care too much whether it’s UGA or LSU that goes to the championship game, because I’m sure that either of them (as well as Florida) could beat any non-SEC team in the top 10 this week or next. As long as one goes there, I’m happy. Bring it on.
The title game is going to be a controversy, but I think the fact that Illinois is going to make it to a BCS game is going to end up causing more changes in the BCS.
I wholeheartedly agree with every one of your points. The answer in my mind is that the voters are retards and more often than not put zero thought into their ballot beyond the top couple teams. We have to hope that when they submit their final ballots they do a better job of filling out the entire ballot based on the teams entire body of work than they did in the knee-jerk reaction filled ballots week-to-week. Sucks, but in the end it just reinforces the fact that all rankings before the final ones are meaningless, especially preseason ones.
All-in-all my overall point is that it’s unreasonable to include OSU in any of those comparisons, because regardless of what you think of them, they are the undisputed champ of their conference. I think that should be a prerequisite for playing in the BCS title game.
No they wouldn’t–when have they ever explained a damn thing about their ballots?
Here it is folks–we have four or five teams (LSU, Georgia, VT, OSU, and maybe Hawaii) that all have legitimate claims on the title game. I have no doubt, however, that LSU and OSU will be selected 1-2, because they’re better-known to the voters and their alumni travel better.
When, in the entire history of college football rankings, has this ever happened?
It would be reallly difficult for me to look past the Stanford loss. The Oregon loss was not bad at all. The Ducks were looking really good until they lost Dixon. In fact, if he didn’t get hurt I’d bet they’d be in the title game.
If your logic is correct, then the polls mean nothing until the final week of the season, and if we should still have them, they should just be for shits and giggles.
Let’s see, I’m Ohio State, I’ve been undefeated and #1 all year, but in the last poll, the voters take a new and more objective look at my season and decide that the team they had at #14, the Kansas State Tech team is, all in all, more solid and should jump thirteen spots and take over the #1 spot.
There has to be some consistency and flow to the polls or else they lose credibility…
I just want to throw out this other IMHO: Georgia is the best SEC team this week. LSU might be the best SEC team in 5 weeks… depending on how their players heal up. Again, I think that either of them could beat OSU, Kansas, VaTech, etc… so I’m only rooting for UGA because I like them better than LSU.
(BTW, am I the only one who though that Les Miles resembled GWBush in his conference talks today?)
I’m not sure what makes you think that they are for anything more than shits an giggles. Thats all they ever have been. The only reason they happen is so that the media has something extra to debate and a way to promote the “big game of the week”.
They are worth WAY more than shits and giggles because they decide who gets to play for the NC.
If there is no logic to the flow from week to week, and at the end of the season, as you contend, they just review de novo, then what was the point of having the intermediate polls? They are illegitimate and should be castigated as such if LSU jumps all of those teams into the title game…
No, the final poll determines who plays in the NC. All the ones before that are utter dreck.
I fully support having all polls prior to tomorrow being eliminated. It’d make things a lot more interesting and hopefully the pollsters would take the time to really debate them adequately. You are absolutely right that they are illegitimate. Like I said, their only value prior to tomorrow is for marketing purposes. Before the BCS thats all the ever were, just a way to sell newspapers.
In case you’re not being factious: Because one of WVa’s losses came against an unranked, 7-loss team. That’s why. Not in triple overtime, either.
And that will ruin the regular season.
Since I went to college in Kentucky, I have friends whose opinion of UK’s loss to Gardner-Webb is, basically, “doesn’t matter… as long as we make the playoffs.”
Can you imagine if Rich Rodriguez’s post-game statement was a cavalier “No big whoop, because we still won the Big East… so we’re still in the playoffs.” Hawaii is loosing right now. Doesn’t matter… because they still won the WAC. I hear people speculating about whether or not the Pats will bench Tom Brady… because it doesn’t matter if they win the rest of their regular season games.
I don’t want college football to come to that. I like the fact that every game matters.
College football is still, and should remain, a conference based system. If you don’t win your conference, you shouldn’t be able to win the national championship. I still like my +1 system. We would have:
LSU vs. Oklahoma
OSU vs. USC
VaTech vs. West Virginia
Then you get the three winners and pick two to have a +1 game.
LSU beat the shit out of VT and had a harder strength of schedule than they did.
LSU had a similar SoS to UGA, but won SEC while UGA watched at home like we did. LSU beat both teams that beat UGA.
LSU had a MUCH better SoS than Kansas, and they didn’t win their conference either.
If LSU plays in the NCG, they will be healthy for the first time since the VT spanking, and possibly with a more competent defensive coordinator than Pellini. They’re going to demolish Ohio St.
Now that the Hawaii game is over we have a good idea of the BCS matchups.
National Championship: Ohio St/LSU - I see LSU jumping Georgia and VT in the polls this week. Deserved or not, I think the voters will respect winning the SEC more than the ACC. I just can’t see the voters putting Georgia or Kansas in the national title game without having won their conference.
Rose Bowl: USC/Illinois - With OSU jumping to the title game the Rose Bowl will grab Illinois as the only eligible Big Ten team.
Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech/Kansas - The Orange Bowl would rather have Georgia than Kansas but if LSU is in the national championship game the Sugar Bowl will take Georgia ahead of them.
Fiesta: WVU/Oklahoma - They’ll gladly take WV over Hawaii in this spot. If the Orange Bowl takes WVU over Kansas (seems unlikely) then the Fiesta is stuck with an all-Big 12 bowl (KU/OU) that they don’t want.
Sugar: Georgia/Hawaii - The Sugar Bowl gets stuck with Hawaii getting the last pick this year.
So Arizona State gets left out and Mizzou is headed to the Cotton Bowl.
