"College towns"?

Over in this thread about the cost of living in different locations, kunilou mentions living in a “college town”. It’s clear from the context that the college town is small; everything was ‘within walking distance’, and the cost of living was much lower.

I get the impression that this is a town about the size of Bancroft, Ontario (population 5000), where you can rent a house for $500/month, while I’m paying $700/month for a zero-bedroom apartment three blocks from the sewage-treatment plant in Toronto.

But my question isn’t about cost of living. I’m curious about these “college towns”. Are we speaking of a town where the primary industry, the reason for the town existing at all, is the college? (And to be clear, I presume we mean four-year degree-granting university here, not community college.)

I’m scratching my head trying to think of an equivalent in Ontario, and coming up blank. Our colleges and universities are established in existing towns and cities. Quite small towns may have community-college facilities (Bancroft has a campus of Loyalist College, for example), but they weren’t founded to house the college.

Were towns founded in the US specifically to house new colleges? If so, why?

Not founded specifically for the school, but lots have expanded around one. In my state, there are several places like this: Bellingham, Ellensburg, Cheney, and Pullman all qualify. Most of them have two major reasons for existing–the school and farming (though B’ham is more about its small harbor and being close to the Canadian border).

I think that the schools are established in a town based on geography, and the town grows because of it. The towns I mentioned are spread around, so that there’s a state school fairly close to everyone.

Some cities in the U.S. were founded specifically for the school: e.g., Berkeley.

I didn’t read that thread, but in general the issue with “college towns” is that you have towns in the middle of what would usually be a very low cost-of-living region, but where the influx of outside money from people sending their kids to school inflates the housing market. Wages (for lower income folks anyways) remain the same as Hardscrabbleville 40 miles up the road, but it costs twice as much to live there. I think by this definition, the University need not be the only industry, or even the dominant industry, for something to be a “college town” in terms of wages and cost of living.

A college town is not necessarily a tiny village. One of the more famous “College towns” is Ann Arbor MI (home of the University of Michigan) which actually is a small city of population 100,000 (not including the student population numbering 40,000). However the “downtown” area is oriented completely around the University. Which is also one of the town’s major employers. I think Wikipedia said it well when they said the main feature of a college town is that the university “pervades both economic and social life.”

Wikipedia on college towns.

I wouldn’t agree that a “college town” is necessarily small. I live in Boulder, CO, and it is definitely a college town despite the 100,000 population. It’s just that 30,000 of the people are students, and they wield a very large influence on the town. A lot of businesses cater almost exclusively to students, and the many large companies with presences here rely on CU graduates to fill their technical positions.

I consider a place as large as Madison, WI (350,000) to be a college town, even though it is also a state capitol.

A college town is a town that in which the college holds the greatest influence over the population. The University of Minnesota has 50,000 students, but Minneapolis and St. Paul are not college towns. Washington, D.C. is full of colleges and universities but is not a college town. A town has to be small enough for a college to be dominant, but that can still be pretty large.

Interesting. I had no idea there were so many.

I think “college town” has less to do with the reason for the town’s existence and more to do with how the college affects the town. For example, the village of New Paltz had a population of about 6000 in the 2000 census and the town of New Paltz had a population of about 13,000. The State University campus had about 7800 students in 2000. I have a feeling that the village and town have more bars, bookstores, etc than similarly sized towns without a college nearby.

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Rents are usually higher in college towns. Partially because of the need to house a continuous flow of students, but also because there is a density of cultural events, sporting events, restaurants, etc – that occur and exist as a direct result of the university being there – that make it a desirable place to live.

Sackville, New Brunswick is largely regarded as a typical college town.

I grew up in Brookings SD, which was an established town (it’s mentioned in the Little House on the Prairie books) when South Dakota State University was built there, but is very much considered a ‘college town’. It has a population of around 19,000 during the school year which drops during the summer. You can easily walk from one end of town to the other (I did often). There is virtually no crime. Cost of living there was fairly low as it is in all of SD.

I too agree that it’s more to do with how a surrounding area is affected by a college, rather than it being the sole purpose of the town’s existence.

I live within a few minutes drive in my current burb of 5 colleges, but this is not a college town.

Maybe not “the reason for the town existing at all,” but the college is the biggest, or one of the biggest, things around. —or colleges: a college town may have more than one college (like for example Northfield, Minnesota, home to St. Olaf and Carleton college (where I went)).

I get the impression that private colleges and universities are far less common in Canada than in the United States.

Could that have anything to do with it?

Well, the town of Normal, Illinois was named after the school:

There are certainly hundreds, possibly thousands.

Colleges have a strange history in the U.S. European countries tended to have just a few colleges for the upper classes in major cities (or in satellite cities like Oxford and Cambridge). American colleges reflected the nature of the country as a whole. From the beginning, they strove to be meritocracies. They certainly catered to the upper classes but they also accepted bright men with no family name, like John Adams or especially Alexander Hamilton. A new country required basic knowledge. The country lacked everything. There were no engineers, no scientists. A nation of farmers needed agricultural expects. A new nation creating laws as it went along needed lawyers. And there was another way that the U.S. was different. Most European countries had an established religion. The U.S. had dozens of competing religions, each of which needed its own set of trained ministers.

So almost every time a new town was founded, two somebodies started a newspaper, five somebodies started churches, and somebody founded a college. Most were very small, most had religious affiliations, and most taught only a few classes. They might teach some Latin, a few “mechanics” courses, some animal husbandry, or teacher training. They had no pretense toward being scholarly. They gave people some basic instruction and got them out the door to get the next generation going. Many more were founded than survive today.

Over time, some colleges did thrive. They grew reputations, got better instructors, became local cultural centers. The U.S. is a huge, huge place. There was room for thousands of colleges, big and small, scholarly and instructional. States started many colleges of their own on the principle that every high school graduate was entitled to have a shot at college. States placed these colleges in small towns partially because there was less competition there, partly because it was cheaper to do so, partly because it was politically smart to spread the wealth, and partly because that meant that one was close to everybody in the state. Most states have anywhere from several to dozens of these colleges and almost every one became a college town. Every single college mentioned in this thread is a state college.

College towns are dominated by the sheer size of the college. They are equivalent to what used to be called “factory towns” because one employer was so dominant that it pretty much ran the place. College towns can be good places to live, because there’s a lot of money, lots of visitors, lots of culture, and lots of stores, far more so than in places of similar population. They can also be the equivalent of tourist traps, where everybody tried to make money off of people who don’t plan on staying very long, making them ugly in tone and spirit. Athens, Ohio, is home to Ohio University, a 20,000 student university in a 5,000 person town. The only thing Athens was known for was having 43 bars.

America still has more colleges per capita than any other country, AFAIK. That’s because its college history, like most others of its histories, is unique. I’m not sure why Canada is so different, possibly because provinces aren’t really as independent as states were in U.S. history, possibly just because the population is so much smaller, possibly because the British tradition meant more, probably bits and pieces of lots of things.

State College, PA (Penn State), and College Station, TX (Texas A&M) were basically founded specifically for colleges. There were small communities there, but once the college was founded, that took over.

Other college towns include Morrisville NY (home of SUNY Morrisville), Canton, NY (St. Lawrence University and SUNY Canton), Geneseo, NY (SUNY Geneseo), and Durham, NY (University of New Hampshire). In all cases, the students outnumber (or come close to outnumbering) the permanent residents, and the town’s economy is based upon the college.

Or State College (yes, that’s the actual name of the town).

Another thing to consider about town/gown relations is that most colleges & universities are tax exempt. Than means no property tax revenue for the local municipality or school district.

Oh yes, there are bunches of them. At least one Ivy League school out of the eight in that sports conference is in a college town. Dartmouth is located in tiny Hanover, NH and is so old that there is no way that the town would be remotely the same without it. Cornell might be argued to be the same in Ithaca, NY but not exactly so extreme.

People have counted students in this thread but no one has mentioned the huge numbers of support staff like everything from IT support staff to administrative workers to maintenance workers to maids. There can be a whole lot of jobs that are dependent on the university whether you are a student or professor or not.

You can also have cities that are large and not completely dominated by the college or university but still permeate the entire culture of the city. My home state of Louisiana has LSU with about 30,000 students is based in Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge is a fairly large city and the state capitol of Louisiana but LSU, especially sports, still dominates the regional culture in ways that you probably can’t understand because you are in Canada (think bumper stickers, fights, and memorabilia displayed conspicuously in people’s home even if they don’t have andy family members that ever attended there and they aren’t joking in the least). It isn’t a true college town but the college culture is still incredibly powerful. A lot of Southern schools are that way.

Please, don’t forget to include my current town of Athens, GA, seat of the University of Georgia, in the category of college towns. My previous towns, Gainesville, FL, and to a lesser extent Baton Rouge, LA, are also college towns.

My guess is that, at least for public universities, they wanted towns and cities that were separate from the current big places, they wanted a place that could grow with the university… That would explain both Athens and Gainesville…

Well, that’s two different definitions. I don’t think most college towns were originally founded to house a college (in their very earliest days, many of them seem to have been pioneer or Indian settlements like any other).

But if you’re talking about towns where the college has come to dominate, then I think Peterborough, Ontario is a college town - it’s got Trent University and several colleges.

One way you can recognize a town established specifically to house a college is that they often have classical names, like Athens or Syracuse. Most US states were admitted to the Union under the terms of the Northwest Ordinance or other legislation based on it, and one of the provisions is that a certain amount of land in the state be set aside for a university to teach the practical arts (such as agriculture and mining, hence <state name> A&M University).

I think that the term does not necessarily imply that the raison d’etre or principal industry of the town is the college, but that the college is proportionately large enough for it to have a significant influence on the culture and economy of the town. A ratio of 20% students/faculty to townspeople sounds like a good floor for the definition to me.