Colored people is now a slur?

Maybe they have better things to do with their money than paying for new signs, letterheads, trademarks, etc. :wink:

As others have pointed out, the NAACP keeps the name due to the fact that the formation of the organization, with its original name, was such a significant moment in the history race relations in the United States. Here’s a 2008 interview with William Barber, who is President of the North Carolina NAACP, and has been involved in the organization at the national level for years:

Match of the Day commentator Alan Hansen got into similar hot water about five years back when he made a reference to “coloured” football players in the Premier League. A few black players criticized him, and the BBC received some complaints.

In my university history classes, quite a few of the documents that i assign to my students used terms for African Americans that are now considered outdated or offensive, including “negro” and “colored.” I try to explain to the students that, while such terms were considered standard in the past, and were used by black Americans themselves, we don’t use them any more.

Despite these admonitions, i still often get students referring to African Americans as “negros” and “colored people” in their papers, and in classroom discussion.

Raise your hand if you’re ever been an angry little kid you told her parents: Fascists! You don’t own me! and the parents said, “why yes dear, we are fascists.”

Cis is often used as a “fuck you” to those willing to let you vent those pent up emotions. There there dear, let it out.

Here’s a secret. If you want to know what black people think, try listening to black people.

I’ve never identified myself as a social justice warrior. I just consider myself a decent human being. I always assumed all decent human beings are in favor of social justice. I wasn’t aware they are people who are proud to declare they oppose social justice.

Who made up the rule that you shouldn’t pick your nose in public? Nobody sits down and decides what’s bad manners. It emerges from public opinion.

Calling somebody colored in 1916 was perfectly acceptable. It’s not acceptable in 2016. This is a fact. There wasn’t a specific date and individual who changed it just as there wasn’t a specific date and individual who decided you shouldn’t pick your nose. It just happened.

I guess it depends on the context. From the 1970’s:

Fred Sanford: I was attacked by four men!

Officer: Were they colored?

Fred Sanford: Yeah! White.


And in the courtroom…

Sanford: There’s enough niggers in here to make a Tarzan movie!

No, it really isn’t. I’m sure it’s happened. And often is a matter of perception, I guess, but you said its function is as a slur, essentially.

And I am an actual human being who has cause to use cisgender in a human sentence from time to time, so unlike you, I have a basis for telling you that it isn’t a pejorative term. It’s just a fucking word that means a specific thing that no other word means, not any part of which is “fuck you.”

Cis. White male. Whatevs. In context it’s appropriate, sometimes it’s a cathartic fuck you to the universe. But don’t be offended when I use it! Sure, in context. Be a childish passive aggressive asshole about it I can tell.

It’s not even reasonably possible to distinguish your whatevs-sarcasm where you’re presumably speaking from the perspective of your strawman from when you think you’re making a point on your own behalf. Sign of a really shitty strawman.

That’s why you and octopus ended up anti-SJW strawmanning each other a little while back and didn’t even realize you were doing it. Just, you know, so you know.

It’s like hearing people claim ". Well, I know I’m a million times as humble as thou art.":stuck_out_tongue:

You damn rights person-first terminology can be awkward. What do these feel-gooders expect us to call gay people? People of gayness? People with gayness?

Political correctness is turning our society into a bunch of clowns.

Yeah. I realized that in retrospect and was quite embarrassed.

I agree that people should decide what they are referred to as, but I can’t help but feel that in a few years time “person of color” will be seen as the ignorant thing to say.

Also, there was no colored people meeting to decide what is correct nowadays, at least I wasn’t invited to it.

I didn’t even address my comment to her, but my post came after her’s so she felt the need to defend herself.

You probably shouldn’t use strawman as a standin for everything. It get’s overused and eventually loses meaning.

So does SJW

So by this logic, a white person who saysthe N word, rather than the black recipient/target of the N word, is the one who gets to decide if the N word is offensive or not?

Isn’t it sort of a mutual thing, like most communication? The person using the term decides if he or she is trying to offend somebody, and the person hearing the term decides if he or she is offended by it?

They each decide for themselves how it’s intended and how it’s received.

I would argue there is a different between a word used pejoratively, and a slur or pejorative word. Any word can be used pejoratively. But only words that are almost always used pejoratively are slurs.

“SJW” is a slur. It was created as one, and has only broadened in definition. “Cisgender” isn’t a slur. “Strawman” gets closer due to ignorant usage, but it still isn’t one.

That doesn’t mean someone can’t use “cisgender” pejoratively. But that’s not its main function, so it is not a slur, and thus no one is going to take you seriously when you try and remove it from the language.

BTW, I’d say “PC” is a slur at this point. It has no meaning except in attacking people for being nice and trying not to offend others. The original idea of lying for political gain seems to be gone.

Am I the only one who remembers this thread?
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=492592&highlight=lindsay+lohan