So right, as a soon-to-be-dead Townie I guess I should make my apologies for my shitty play - the last couple days at least I’ve been writing 2k words a day of stuff that requires close reading and sorting out of ambiguities, so the last fucking thing I wanted to do was play Mafia in my free time.
I think Story is town, for reasons I mentioned before. I think Guiri is Town as well, though I can’t point out specific reasons; I’ll leave it out there as my soon-to-be-proven honest impression.
And I think Drain is scum, because of this vote reason:
This right after she notes that I tossed the vote on Freudian that shifted her within one of the lead on Day 3. I mean, you could fairly characterize that as my deciding to bus her as a lost cause in an effort to restore my Townie cred. But it wasn’t a “safe” vote - there was some momentum building towards her, but my vote definitely added to it.
I’m not crazy about Mental’s “gosh, Tom was acting all helpful and Townie in the first turn and trying to clarify the rules/setup - he must be Scum!” argument, but Drain’s argument is worse:
unvote Mental vote Drain
Oh, and can I have it read into the record that I am claiming Vanilla Town, that I am an obvious easy vote for scum, and that Town should look at my bandwagon carefully? And that it will be nice to have Story playing for my team again? Thanks.
Seems like you are wriggling a bit there. Your suspicion of Freudian should have been equal to your suspicion that Zeriel was killed for dropping a cop tell. (If that was the reason Zeriel was killed, it must have meant that Freudian was scum).
Fair enough, I was misreading that exchange.
If you are town, do you have any reasoning at all to back this up? I can’t take this vote seriously as it stands.
I don’t know for sure, but it would be anti-game of him to continue on the scum board while not posting here. He has logged in 2 or 3 times but hasn’t posted anywhere else. My vote got no reaction, so he probably isn’t reading the game.
Like I said earlier, I think scum would know Freudian was unlikely to make it to the endgame, and should have been planning for a flip.
On preview, I’m not sure Drain, I’ll go and take another look.
Suspicious if MHaye turns out to be a scum power role, otherwise I don’t think it’s a strong indicator (the Freudian bandwagon had just picked up steam again, so a scum Guiri might have wanted to be on it).
Vaguely, and here I’m being a lazy fuck because I’m going to die anyway, I remember Mental having a similar profile to mine in terms of the voting/unvoting/revoting of Freudian.
It may have been the only reason I explicitly spelled out, but I did say it was also because of his voting pattern on Freudian in addition to it (essentially, I said I was buying in to story’s argument). His “helpful” behavior on Day 1 probably would not even have been noticed by me if it hadn’t been for his subsequent voting pattern with Freudian.
I also realize that my voting pattern is similar to his, but there is not much I can do about that.
And this part of this post makes you look even more like Freudian, but I have a data point with you that I did not have with Freudian. You acted similarly in the Princess Bride game after you voted after the deadline and got called on it, you were Town then, so this behavior from you doesn’t ping me as much as from someone else.
Also, you said in another post that I smudged you, but what I did was declare my (mild) suspicion of you based on your early gameplay. That is not a smudge, it is a simple declaration of my state of mind.
Not that I disagree with the possibility this could be scum motivated, but I made a similar observation. Granted, I didn’t try to imply that we needed to get rid of story just because he is alive, but I did mention his living this long is automatically suspicious. Why did you not comment on my post? Was is just the force of the argument or something else?
While the voting record is the major reason why I’m voting for you, the post I linked to in my vote post is icing. You voted for Freudian, while still coming up with plausible points in favor of her being Town. It just seems like talking out of both sides of your mouth. Combine that with your being instrumental in saving her multiple times, and I just can’t see you being Town.
I wanted to wait till tomorrow to claim as I hoped I’d get one more result but as it is I think it’s in Town’s interest for me to claim now. At least to avoid the lynch of a possible townie as one more result will leave us in the same situation, specially as I’ll probably not be around tomorrow…
This is my first ever power role and the mods kindly referred me to a couple of past games where the cop’s role and strategies were commented. I’ve also read the various wikis for reference but apart from this I’ve had no guidance or support so I may not have played optimally…
My plan from Day 1 was to build up a pool of possible townies - people who I felt could make it to end game. I made my choices based both on events in the game and previous knowledge of players from Screamers.
I only have 3 useful results as my first investigated player was NK-ed:
Day 1: USC - Town
Day 2: Tom - Town
Day 3: MHaye - Town (chosen after the vote swing from FS to him and finally to Maha)
Day 4: Alka - Town
3 possible townies + me + Peeker leaves 7 players in which to find the scum roleblocker and goon:
Nanook
Drain
Story
Red
Meeko
Mental
Cookies
Any of the 10 remaining players could be the godfather…
I don’t see the value in a mass claim if the only pro-town benefit is to possible identify Nanook as the town RB.
The main difference as I see it is that your post reads like this:
“Meeko is suspicious of story, story is a strong player, small suspicions on story are heightened due to his skill at the game”.
Drain’s post reads like this: “Either story or tom scud is scum, I think it is story because he is a better player and if he is not scum then he would be dead by now.”
It’s not really different from yours with the exception that it also contains some real smears, like vote for story or he’ll lead you to your doom “Pied Piper”; vote for him because he’s “Terrifying”; vote for him even if you think he is town: “If he’s Town and he’s wrong, even worse”. The main thing here that I’m seeing is that it is a huge suspicion that hangs on a coincidence of him still being in the game.
I think both arguments are bunk (yours and hers), since this is an open game and it seems (to me anyways) more likely that scum are looking for signs and portents of the known power roles than worrying about who’s the best player. I didn’t comment on yours since it didn’t read so much as an indictment of story, but an attempt to understand Meeko’s vote. Feel free to correct me if I got a mistaken impression.
Note: this does not mean that I do not suspect story of being scum, he’s about in the middle for me right now.
On Preview:
In light of Guiri’s claim: I am reconsidering my vote. I may switch to Nanook.