Come Play Rock & Roll Jeopardy!

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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This game is being hosted by Shayna, Chocolate and Grace. It will run until someone has correctly answered all the questions or until Sunday, February 20th at 5:00 PM EST (based on the board’s clock), whichever comes first, at which time we will declare a winner and post the scores and answers. The prize for the winner will be a really cool cyber-trophy and all bragging rights associated with it!

<center>HOW TO PLAY ROCK & ROLL JEOPARDY</center>

Answer the questions and identify the midi that goes with it. It’s that simple (haha! :)).

Here’s how it works - Just like in real Jeopardy, there are 6 categories, each with 5 “answers” to which you must provide a “question.” But in our version of Rock & Roll Jeopardy, in addition to giving the correct “question,” you must also match it to one of the related midi files that are provided.

5 of the 6 categories have answers pertaining to an artist or group. Your response should include the artist or group that answers the question (or in this case, questions the answer), the midi number that matches it and the name of the song played in the midi.

The category “Soundtracks” has answers pertaining to a movie the soundtrack is from. Your response should include the answer to the question, the midi number of the song from that movie and the name of the song played in the midi. A bonus will be awarded for naming the movie as well.

(Hint: You may find it easier to identify the midis first and then try to match the artist or movie it’s from to the appropriate question.)

Scoring:

All complete answers are worth the point value of the question. Since each answer has 3 parts (either the artist/group or the movie related response, the midi number and the song title), if only 1 of the 3 elements is answered correctly it will be worth 1/3 of the point value, and if 2 of the 3 elements are answered correctly it will be awarded 2/3 of the point value. All fractions will be rounded to the nearest whole number. The bonus for providing the name of the movie for the “Soundtracks” category will be 25 points.

There is a DAILY DOUBLE that is worth twice the point value. Look for the bolded point value.

In case any of this sounds confusing, here are 2 examples (these are not actually in this game):

<center><table border=1><tr><td colspan=2 align=center>Food For Thought</td></tr><tr><td>100</td><td>He was a real cut-up in the movie The Rocky Horror Picture Show.</td></tr></table></center>

Your answer would read:

Food For Thought, 100 - Who Is Meat Loaf?
Midi #770 (we are providing the midis to match) - You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth (Hot Summer Night).

Your score for this complete answer would be 100 pts. An example of a partial answer score would be, if you answered only, “Who is Meat Loaf? Midi #770,” you’d receive 67 points.

<center><table border=1><tr><td colspan=2 align=center>Soundtracks</td></tr><tr><td>100</td><td>He got dumped at the altar and fell in love with a waitress.</td></tr></table></center>

The answer would be:

Soundtracks, 100 - Who Is Robby Hart? (Note that this is the name of the character, not the actor. The actor didn’t get dumped, the character did.)
Midi #852 - Pass the Dutchie (Note that you do not need the name of the artist.)
Bonus: The Wedding Singer

Your score for this answer would be 125 points (100 for the category value and 25 bonus points for correctly identifying the movie). If you only answered, “Who is Robby Hart? Midi #852. Bonus: The Wedding Singer,” you’re score would be 92 points (67 for the partial answer plus the 25 bonus points).

Now, the trick (you knew there’d be one, didn’t you?)… There are 5 questions in each category, but there are 7 midi files for each category. 2 of the 7 midis don’t pertain to any of the questions, but are still category related! For these extra midis, you can score bonus points by identifying the artist or group and the name of the song, making a note that these are extras (please also indicate what category they would fall under). For the 2 extra midis in the “Soundtrack” category you will only need to name the song and the movie title, NOT the artist who sang the song.

The “extras” for each category are worth 25 points per element (25 points for correctly identifying the midi number as an extra in that category, 25 points for naming the song and 25 points for naming the artist [or movie, in the “Soundtracks” category]).

If you have any questions, please post them here and we will check in from time to time to answer them as best we can.

In order to save bandwidth and loading time for the board, we have linked the game here.

<center><font size=5>Have Fun!</font></center>

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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Of course that should read, “your score…”

I did all this on an empty stomach save for some heavy-duty cold medicine, so if there are any more spellos or any of it is incoherent, try taking some drugs before you play. I figure if you’re in the same state of mind as me, it might make more sense. :wink:

And if people are having a hard time finishing up by or before the deadline, I’m open to extending it. I only made it end on Sunday evening so we’d have Monday (which is a holiday and we have off of work) to spend on scoring it. Let us know. I’ll be back in the morning to see if there are any questions.

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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These are pretty tough. Since I don’t have a sound card, my answers will probably just help someone else’s score.

Off the top of my head:
AROUND THE WORLD
500 This group first appeared in the 1980’s, featuring members of the rock bands King Crimson, ELP, Yes and The Buggles.

Who’s Asia?
SAPPY LOVE SONGS
300 In 1970 he briefly teamed with his older brother, lead singer of The Temptations. He enjoyed several huge hits himself in the mid-'60s.

Who’s Jimmy Ruffin?
BY “GEORGE,” I THINK YOU’VE GOT IT!
100 He was one of Princess Diana’s favorite singers and he attended her funeral.

Who’s Elton John?

400 This artist was sufficiently inspired to pursue his rock-and-roll dream while working as an electrician’s apprentice to pay his living expenses.

Who’s Paul Cook?
AT THE HOP
200 He came out of New Orleans in the 50’s with a rockin’ piano to become one of rock-and-roll’s earliest and best stars.

Who’s Jerry Lee Lewis?
THE ANIMAL KINGDOM
100 This artist became a Muslim and shocked admirers by supporting the death sentence ordered by the Ayatollah Khomeini against novelist Salmam Rushdie for writing the book The Satanic Verses.

Who’s Cat Stevens?

200 The group’s four original members were backup musicians for Linda Ronstadt.

Who are the Stone Ponies?

500 This group is mostly known to rock fans as the starting point for three of the greatest British rock guitarists - Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.

Who are the Yardbirds?

“A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a cross?” – Bill Hicks

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Good morning John (and anyone else checking in here).

Sorry about the inclusion of the midis for those who don’t have sound cards. Here’s why it was done that way though. This game was actually created a while ago for another discussion board on which chocolate, Grace and I used to participate. There were 10 different related boards, and “inter-board challenge games” were frequently played there. Each board played as a team against the other boards so that there were many players contributing to one set of answers. In that case, people without sound cards could still play, but they’d take on the task of researching the answers to the questions while others would listen to the midis and then they’d match their answers up before posting.

Because so many people here were having fun playing the other challenge games, we decided to resurrect this one and modify the “rules” to fit MPSIMS, where people generally play as individuals against each other rather than teams. So since the midis were already part of the original game, we left them in.

However, that doesn’t mean you can’t team up with as many other SD’ers as you’d like to submit your entries. Chocolate, Grace and I always play the other challenges here as a team, ourselves. If you have ICQ or AIM, that’s a great way to work with other people while playing. Just post a message here and ask if anyone else wants to team up with you. Surely there will be some takers.

As for the answers seeming difficult, I can tell you that every one of them was researched for verification somewhere on the internet. So even if you don’t know the answers off the top of your head, all of them can be found on line just by doing a little legwork in looking them up. And we do concede to the fact that the questions are made a bit simpler by having the benefit of hearing the midis and being able to narrow the possibilities down by knowing what artists or movies on which to search for info.

If anyone else has any other concerns, please post them here and we’ll be as accomodating as possible. We want this to be fun for everyone!

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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I have a concern. I’m stupid and can’t recognize anything!

AROUND THE WORLD
100 At one point in their career, this group changed their name to White Clover, reverting back to their original name in 1972.
Kansas

200 This group was formed as an acoustic folk-rock quartet called Daze in London, but soon pared down to a trio and renamed the group to this before releasing their 1st hit album in 1971.
America

300 This group formed officially on February 15, 1967, in the city from which it eventually would take its name.
Boston

500 This group first appeared in the 1980’s, featuring members of the rock bands King Crimson, ELP, Yes and The Buggles.
Asia

SAPPY LOVE SONGS
100 She was the first French-Canadian performer to achieve superstar status throughout North America.
Celine Dion, Midi 2, that stupid song from Titanic (before you laugh, I want to state categorically that my fiancée recognized the Midi, not me.)

200 After he left the Commodores in 1981, he became one of the most successful solo artists of the early '80s, earning a string of thirteen Top Ten hits between 1981 and 1987.
Lionel Richie

300 In 1970 he briefly teamed with his older brother, lead singer of The Temptations. He enjoyed several huge hits himself in the mid-'60s.
Jimmy Ruffin

BY “GEORGE,” I THINK YOU’VE GOT IT!
100 He was one of Princess Diana’s favorite singers and he attended her funeral.
Elton John

200 This artist wrote a song about overeating and being obsessed with Dusty Springfield.
Weird Al Yankovic

400 This artist was sufficiently inspired to pursue his rock-and-roll dream while working as an electrician’s apprentice to pay his living expenses.
Paul Cook

500 A specially recorded tribute CD and video, composed and recorded by this artist, has been launched as a memorial to Diana and Dodi Fayed.
Marilyn Manson, Rockin’ Robin, Midi 15
AT THE HOP
200 He came out of New Orleans in the 50’s with a rockin’ piano to become one of rock-and-roll’s earliest and best stars.
Jerry Lee Lewis

500 This singer played Catwoman’s evil assistant, Pussycat, who seduced Robin so a drug could be administered that made him evil.
George Harrison, My Sweet Love, Midi 14
THE ANIMAL KINGDOM
100 This artist became a Muslim and shocked admirers by supporting the death sentence ordered by the Ayatollah Khomeini against novelist Salman Rushdie for writing the book The Satanic Verses.
Cat Stevens

200 The group’s four original members were backup musicians for Linda Ronstadt.
Stone Ponies

300 This band was a group of unknown musicians who filled in for the absent Van Morrison at a Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony.
New Kids on the Block, Bad to the Bone, Midi 24

500 This group is mostly known to rock fans as the starting point for three of the greatest British rock guitarists - Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.
Yardbirds

SOUNDTRACKS
200 These two loving siblings made a bet neither one wanted to lose.
Dangerous Liaisons

300 You only see parts of his body (never his face).
Phantom of the Opera, Dust in the Wind, midi 8

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LMAO Arnold… And I thought all these songs were so easy! So far you’ve done quite well on the “Around the World” category but you’ve missed the midi’s. If you found the artist, then listen to the midi’s and see if you can find a song by that artist. It seems you found a midi by one of the artists, but didn’t post it with the artist.
Now I think the rules may have been a little confusing on the category BY “GEORGE,” I THINK YOU’VE GOT IT!. Since “George” is in quotations, the artist or group has the name “George” in it. It might help to try and identify the song and then go to a web site to find the artist. Maybe it will all fit together better for you.

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Bwaahahahahaha… Marilyn Manson did a tribute to Dody and Di??? now that’s one I’d like to hear!

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To those of you who are playing:

Jerry Lee did not come from New Orleans. He came from Ferriday, LA, and recorded for Sun Records in Memphis. Little Richard grew up in Macon, GA, and recorded for RCA and then Specialty records, he is usually considered to be from New Orleans, since he lived there for a while and (I think) recorded there for Specialty. Fats Domino is also a likely choice. He was totally from New Orleans. He lived, gigged, and recorded there. He was already on his way well before the 50’s, but could be just as “correct” an answer as Little Richard. The judges owe you some clarification.

Sweet Basil

Come to think of it, there are tons of other piano players that came from New Orleans, that are better known as R&B or Jazz artists that could be argued as well, such as Smiley Lewis, Professor Longhair, etc…

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Sweetbasil, you are right about the fact that many artists got their start in New Orleans. However, the key here is that only one of the artists represented in the midis provided, matches that particular clue. That’s why the inclusion of the midi files was important in playing this game - they are the clarification. Make sense?

I’ll give everyone a clue to help out in researching though. Almost all of the information that was gathered regarding the artists came from the biography section at www.allmusic.com

Guess this game didn’t go over as well here as it did the last time we played it. Oh well, we tried. :frowning:

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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I thought the phrase meant they were all British artists. At any rate, according to books by Glen Matlock and John Lydon (Johnny Rotten), Paul Cook should qualify as an answer to the 400-point question (or as a question to the 400-point answer, if you’d rather).

However, if that’s considered wrong, does it mean that 400 points are deducted from my score, like on the real Jeopardy? And does it also mean that if I made any correct guesses, the answers are off limits to all other contestants? (Good luck to Arnold, regardless.)

I remember seeing this episode a long time ago, and am looking forward to the answer.

“A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a cross?” – Bill Hicks

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Well, it might be a correct answer IF the category was something like “Great Chefs of Music.” But remember, the replies must fit the category, just like in real Jeopardy.

Nope, we aren’t deducting points for wrong answers here.

And as for other people’s answers being off limits, I thought about asking people not to use other’s answers as their method of “research,” but it would be pretty impossible to know whether they did or not. I guess it’s really up to the individual to decide if they’d rather have the fun of actually playing the game or let someone else play and steal all their answers. At this point, that’s kindof moot though, since no one but you and Arnold have even taken a stab at this anyway.

I’m tempted just to give you guys the list of song titles and change the rules so that instead of identifying the midis you have to then only identify the artist who did each song and find the question (answer) that they fit. I will confer with my co-hosts this afternoon and let you know what we decide. To us, when we originally did this game, listening to those hokey midis and trying to “name that tune” was 3/4 of the fun of it. And they’re all very familiar songs and artists. There are none on the list that I would consider in any way obscure. But we didn’t take into account those who don’t have sound cards so they couldn’t do that even if they wanted to, which is our bad.

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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“Alex, I’ll take ‘Rock Stars Who Have Choked To Death On Their Own Vomit’ for $300, please”.

I’ve always wanted to say that.

…send lawyers, guns, and money…

       Warren Zevon
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Shayna: I know you said “these are all very familiar artists.” But, in my case, I never listen to top 40 radio or classic rock radio. So, to give you an example, even though Celine Dion’s Titanic song has probably inundated the airwaves, I never have heard it (except once in the movie.) So for me, recognizing those tunes is difficult, unless it happens to be a particular musician I am interested in.

Also I think the questions are fairly difficult for the casual music afficionado. For example, I have all the Beatles’ albums, and know quite a bit about their career. I know George Harrison (since the song My Sweet Lord is midi 14), is probably the answer to one of the George questions, I’m guessing the electrician one, but even I can’t tell for sure. Another George is probably George Thoroughgood, since “Bad to the Bone” is Midi 24, but even knowing that, I have no idea what answer fits him.

I think one way to make it easier would be, instead of having the midis, having an actual snippet of the song, but there might be copyright issues with that.

So I think your quiz is a great idea, but is too difficult, at least for me. (I don’t want to speak for anybody else.)

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Oh, and John Rush:

Paul Cook might fit one of the questions, but dont’ forget you have to find a MIDI to match the artist.

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Ok, the ruling is in. We have mutually agreed that we will provide you with the list of song titles in lieu of you having to listen to the midi files and identify them yourselves. The point value for each question will remain the same, but since we’ve removed the element of figuring out the songs, the scoring will now be full vs. half credit since there are only 2 elements to each question instead of 3. You must still match the titles with the correct artist and question, though. And remember, many of these songs were performed by more than one artist. The only acceptible one is the one that answers the appropriate question in each category.

We have also removed any “extras” that fit categories but didn’t answer any of the given questions - that’s why the numbering is off on the list below. We left the original numbers in case anyone wanted to listen to the midis and see if you recognized the songs once you knew the titles. Plus, since we already have the score sheet set up with these numbers, scoring will be easier for us if we don’t have to change them.

We hope that this makes it more fair to those who are unable to listen to the files because they have no sound card, and a little easier/less time consuming for everyone else.

Here are the song titles:

2 - My Heart Will Go On
3 - Mr. Jones
4 - How Am I Suppose To Live Without You
5 - Blueberry Hill
6 - Another Saturday Night
7 - Breezin’
8 - Dust in the Wind
9 - Suddenly
10 - All My Ex’s Live in Texas
14 - My Sweet Lord
15 - Rockin’ Robin
16 - Build Me Up Buttercup
17 - Tin Man
19 - Heat of the Moment
20 - Karma Chameleon
21 - What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted
23 - Tequila Sunrise
25 - Unbreak My Heart
26 - Bitter Sweet Symphony
28 - Hold My Hand
29 - Careless Whisper
30 - Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is
31 - I Heard It Through The Grape Vine
32 - It’s My Party
34 - The Final Countdown
35 - Hang On Sloopy
36 - For Your Love
37 - Earth Angel
41 - You Sexy Thing
42 - Stuck On You

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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Arnold, I understand that not everyone listens to every style of music. I wouldn’t know one Country song from another if it bit me in the butt. But we did our best to come up with a cross-section of music, most of which people should be at least somewhat familiar with, and if not, be able to look up somewhere on the web.

Now that we’ve posted the titles to the songs, if you are not familiar with them, I’d recommend going to one of the sites where you can buy music online and doing a title search for that song to see what artists have performed it. I know you are bright enough to be able to do some deductive reasoning after you have that information.

As for your Beetles knowledge and being unable to apply it to any of our questions, again I will remind you that we found all of our information on the internet. Therefore it should be fairly easy to use a search engine to uncover the identity of the artist in question once you have the artist’s name. And we gave you a hint above as to where we found most of the information we used (but in all fairness, and not to mislead you, we did not get the answer about the electrician’s apprentice from that site. That one may require further digging on your part).

Since you never had any concern about having to research some of your answers for any of Bricker’s challenges, I’m not sure what’s so different about having to research song titles and artists as opposed to poets, nursery rhymes, math equations, sports trivia and so on. If music isn’t your thing and you’d prefer not to play, I totally understand. Perhaps some day we’ll come up with a game that more people will enjoy. This seemed like a music-loving board so we thought people here would have fun with it.

“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

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As promised, here are the scores and answers.

John Rush: 700
Arnold Winkelried: 1,050

AROUND THE WORLD

100 - At one point in their career, this group changed their name to White Clover, reverting back to their original name in 1972.
Who is Kansas?
Midi 8: Dust in the Wind

200 - This Group was formed as an acoustic folk-rock quartet called Daze in London but soon pared down to a trio and renamed the group to this before releasing their 1st hit album in 1971.
Who is America?
Midi 17: Tin Man

300 - This group formed officially on February 15, 1967 in the city from which it eventually would take its name.
Who is Chicago?
Midi 30: Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is

400 - In their first incarnation, the Swedish band was called Force. The band won a national talent contest in the early '80s, which led to a record contract.
Who is Europe?
Midi 34: The Final Countdown

500 - This group first appeared in the 1980’s, featuring members of the rock bands King Crimson, ELP, Yes and The Buggles.
Who is Asia?
Midi 19: Heat of the Moment
SAPPY LOVE SONGS

100 - She was the first French-Canadian performer to achieve superstar status throughout North America.
Who is Celine Dion?
Midi 2: My Heart Will Go On

200 - After he left the Commodores in 1981, he became one of the most successful solo artists of the early '80s, earning a string of thirteen Top Ten hits between 1981 and 1987.
Who is Lionel Richie?
Midi 42: Stuck On You

300 - In 1970 he briefly teamed with his older brother, lead singer of The Temptations. He enjoyed several huge hits himself in the mid-'60s.
Who is Jimmy Ruffin?
Midi 21: What Becomes of the Broken Hearted

400 - He was the lead singer in a heavy-metal band that made two albums at the end of the '70s and the start of the '80s. In 1983, he changed his name, signed to Columbia Records as a solo act, and relaunched his career.
Who is Michael Bolton?
Midi 4: How Am I Supposed To Live Without You

500 - While he concentrated on theme-oriented albums of showtunes and traditional favorites during the '60s, he began incorporating soft rock by the '70s and remained a popular concert attraction well into the '90s.
Who is Johnny Mathis?
Midi 25: Unbreak My Heart
BY “GEORGE,” I THINK YOU’VE GOT IT

100 - He was one of Princess Diana’s favorite singers and he attended her funeral.
Who is George Michael?
Midi 29: Careless Whisper

200 - This artist wrote a song about overeating and being obsessed with Dusty Springfield.
Who is Boy George (and Culture Club)?
Midi 20: Karma Chameleon

300 - Every one of his 20 albums has been certified gold, platinum or multi-platinum.
Who is George Strait?
Midi 10: All My Ex’s Live in Texas

400 - This artist was sufficiently inspired to pursue his rock-and-roll dream while working as an electrician’s apprentice to pay his living expenses.
Who is George Harrison?
Midi 14: My Sweet Lord

500 - A specially recorded tribute CD, composed and recorded by this artist, has been launched as a memorial to Diana and Dodi Fayed.
Who is George Benson?
Midi 7: Breezin’
THE ANIMAL KINGDOM

100 -This artist became a Muslim and shocked admirers by supporting the death sentence ordered by the Ayatollah Khomeini against novelist Salman Rushdie for writing the book The Satanic Verses.
Who is Cat Stevens?
Midi 6: Another Saturday Night

200 - This group’s four original members were backup musicians for Linda Ronstadt
Who are The Eagles?
Midi 23: Tequila Sunrise

300 - This band was a group of unknown musicians who filled in for the absent Van Morrison at a Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony.
Who are the Counting Crows?
Midi 3: Mr. Jones

400 - This group’s celebrity Pro-Am Golf Tournament donated over $300,000 to its charities.
Who are Hootie & The Blowfish?
Midi 28: Hold My Hand

500 - This group is mostly known to rock fans as the starting point for three of the greatest British rock guitarists -Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.
Who are the Yardbirds?
Midi 36: For Your Love
AT THE HOP

100 - This group had a bit part in the movie Grease.
Who are Sha Na Na?
Midi 15: Rockin’ Robin

200 - He came out of New Orleans in the 50’s with a rockin’ piano to become one of rock-and-roll’s earliest and best stars.
Who is Fats Domino?
Midi 5: Blueberry Hill

300 - Doo-wop group who got together while they were members of the St. Michael’s Boys Choir in Toronto. They were inducted into the Juno Hall of Fame.
Who are The Crew Cuts?
Midi 37: Earth Angel

400 - MJQ-influenced group that subtitled themselves "The Gentle-Men of Jazz.
Who is Ramsey Lewis or The Ramsey Lewis Trio?
Midi 35: Hang on Sloopy

500 DAILY DOUBLE – She played Pussycat, Catwoman’s evil assistant, who seduced Robin so a drug could be administered that changed him to evil.
Who is Leslie Gore?
Midi 32: It’s My Party
SOUNDTRACKS

100 - This quarterback almost got the girl!
Who is Brett Favre?
Midi 16: Build Me Up Buttercup
Sountrack: There’s Something About Mary

200 -These two loving siblings made a bet neither one wanted to lose.
Who are: Kathryn Merteuil and Sebastian Valmont
Midi 26: Bitter Sweet Symphony
Sountrack: Cruel Intentions

300 - You only see parts of his body (never his face)
Who Is Alex?
Midi 31: I Heard It Through The Grape Vine
Soundtrack: The Big Chill

400 - These Six Men had “nothing” to lose!
Who are: Gary ‘Gaz’ Schofield, Dave Althorpe, Lomper, Gerald Arthur Cooper, Barrington “Horse” Mitchell & Guy?
Midi 41: You Sexy Thing
Soundtrack: The Full Monty

500 -This incarnated Greek muse loves disco and roller skates.
Who Is Kira?
Midi 9: Suddenly
Soundtrack: Xanadu

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Congratulations, Arnold.

I thought about giving this answer, but I don’t know his history. Which alleged heavy metal band was he in? Mojo Nixon added him to the list of people who have no Elvis in them.

Leslie Gore on Batman? Yeah, it was a campy show, but…

I thought this may have been the teenager on Donna Reed who had a hit with Johnny Angel, but I couldn’t remember her name. And still can’t.

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That would be Shelly Fabares, who IIRC is married to Mike Farrell of MAS*H fame.

“Man looks in the abyss, there’s nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss.”

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THAT’S her name! Thank you, Grace. Now I can sleep again.

BTW, she was also in Forever Fernwood.