Not quite. What motivates them is not them winning. What motivates them is their opponents losing. Sane people like win-win situations and dislike lose-lose situations. Republicans are the reverse.
I don’t read all the political threads here, so I might have missed some inside joke even though search doesn’t find this in any other thread.
What are Tepiblicans and Eepublicans?
Here’s a thought: Do all of the proposed rules get passed together as a single package, or is it one at a time? It’d be amusing if the House voted to accept the bit about making it easy to vacate the Speakership, but then didn’t pass any of the other rules. So now the Antifreedom Caucus feels like McCarthy betrayed them, and they’re able to do something about it.
Yeah, a handful of centrist GOPs can vote against the rule changes, and that is not something that will cause them to be primaried out or anything.
When does that vote happen?
I believe it’s standard to vote for the whole package as one. I don’t know if it has to be that way.
They are fat fingers on a tiny keyboard. No jokes.
A member can demand a Division of the Question as the rules are divisible. What would typically happen is a member that objects to a rule would demand to divide that particular one out, then the rest of the rules are debated and voted on as a package and then the divided rule is dealt with via debate and vote. Note the Division of the Question itself is not a motion meaning there is no vote of whether or not to divide the rules up. It’s Rule XVI Section 5(a)
Except as provided in paragraph (b), a question shall be divided on the demand of a Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner before the question is put if it includes propositions so distinct in substance that, one being taken away, a substantive proposition remains.
Monday.
The threat of being successfully primaried is brought up often.
Pretty much though every so called “centrist” who could be primaried was this last cycle, and GOP voters saw what resulted. Losing seats that were easily winnable. These are districts in which a MAGA candidate would have no chance in the general. Enough primary voters know that that they selected a less extreme candidate this time; they are not less likely to next time.
Their best route to renomination and re-election next time is being able to accomplish something that they promised that voters in their specific districts want. Working under rules that make such … highly improbable … is not their best path.
But again they need at least a single vertebra, and there has been no evidence that even a notochord exists.
I thought “Tepublicans” might be short for “Tea Party Republicans.” There’s clever, I thought.
“Eepublicans” stumped me, though.
I thought it was their “new” pronouns, like ‘ee’ for 'he/she."
If most primary voters remember that and make the connection. But what if by the time they get there, the MAGA and adjacent voters are just completely up in arms and ready to even vote by mail in advance if that’s what it takes to get rid of the now-tarred-as-RINO candidate. Remember: the True MAGAts don’t care about losing as much as about inflicting pain.
It would be es new pronouns.
These are representatives whose brands have been painting themselves as pragmatic centrists. Why were they not successfully primaried this cycle?
New rules or not they will going loggerheads against the Howlers. They will be labeled RINOs by them no matter what. They will be primaried. It is a given.
The question is if you are fight that race have been demolished by rules you put in place or having had something accomplished to run on.
I knew I’d mess it up.
Boehner had such a concession (one unhappy person could initiate vote against) to be elected speaker several years ago. It caught up with him eventually. But it is not without precedent.
I hate to take the easy path of “what if they didn’t “, but why do you think those things will get done? I’m expecting nonstop circuses and nothing substantive for the next two years at least.
The things that absolutely need to get done are things like paying the bills and extending the debt limit. Shutting down the government in game playing brinksmanship has never gone well for the GOP, and end of day the majority of the GOP caucus would work with the evil Democrats to solve a shut government in fairly short order. Sure they can, and McCarthy has promised to, demand cuts to Social Security and Medicare before allowing the government to function, but reality is that no so-called “centrist” wants their re-election to die on that hill, and they will deal with Dems before the pain gets too bad. Forcing The United States into default and collapsing markets is a bad look.
It isn’t that they care about the harms the tactic causes to the people and to the country; they simply have seen the failure of the tactic in the past.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Have you ever seen the tactic work well for them? Have you ever seen them not ending up having to cave, having caused problems with key voter blocs in the process?
There are a new breed of “Republicans” that don’t give a flying fuck if tactics work, as long the press spells their names correctly.