Consequences for Colin Kaepernick

Really? I’m certainly one who doesn’t think Rice’s football career should have ended over it. He had no prior criminal record and did not acquire one. Generally, it’s the guys who repeatedly make poor choices in spite of resources available to them who should be subject to those difficult decisions where no team employs them.

One of the best know figures in what sport, selling shoes? He didn’t really play much pro football before deciding to self-terminate his career. And he has an approximately zero possibility of playing again, and likely wouldn’t be much good if he did, he has squandered his prime time, which is only a small window of time for any ball player.

…you would be correctly characterized as one of the “very, very few dopers.”

There are very few people in the US who do not know who he is, even though he no longer plays.

He obviously does not believe he ‘squandered’ his time, but rather that he is spending it on something more important than a game.

The articles I’ve seen said he was offered a contract while he was a 49er and struggling.

So, yes, he was offered a contract. When you turn it down because 3.5 million a year isn’t enough money in a declining career then it’s best not to poison the well going forward by insulting customers and suing your employer.

He was offered a contract WHILE UNDER CONTRACT, that would require his current team agreeing to it. Like I said, this has already been covered. Elway thought he could pull one over on the 49ers, get a quarterback to take a ~$10 million paycut, and not suck at his job. Instead, he has the best 3rd string quarterback in the league starting and looks like a tool - and you’re trying to argue he’s in the right.

Lets review what you said in contradiction to my statement that he was offered a contract:
Did you ignore the entire rest of that post? Because Elway never offered free-agent Kaepernick a contract, and has said exactly that.

This is false. Elway DID offer him a contract. It happened. Saying it didn’t by moving the goal posts doesn’t change it. The fact that it expired after Kaepernick decided to piss off fans and sue his employer is 100% on him. He had his chance to bail the 49’s and turned it down. He could have sucked it up for 2 years at a miserly 7 million dollars and made himself more valuable.

Do you know when Kaepernick entered free agency? Hint, it was in 2017. Now when did Elway offer him a contract?

ETA: You’re claiming he had the choice to bail on the 49ers for 7 million dollars, while ignoring the fact he made $14 million in that season that he’d have to walk away from.

You said he wasn’t offered a contract before. And you were wrong.

He was offered a contract in 2016, the year he was having problems with the 49’s. They didn’t want him. He went into free agency at the end of that season.

Why do you keep arguing he wasn’t offered a contract? Seriously. It’s a fact. That you don’t think he should have taken a lesser deal in the face of a declining career doesn’t change that fact.

TBE. Is that a typo or does it mean Tick-borne Encephalitis?

Traumatic brain encephalopathy

(I’m not too sure how NFL contracts work, but $14 million for one year sounds like a better deal than for two years.)

I think you might be surprised how many people in the US have essentially zero awareness of the NFL and would fail to name anyone who plays in it.

And many of these people still know who Kaepernick is because of his protests and now the Nike ad, which was my point.

I have trouble believing a large number of people are less aware of the NFL that I am, but I will stipulate the point.

According to an article cited earlier, in ten of Nike’s twelve key markets, we’re talking about a cool black dude in a Nike advert. For the minority of customers in those markets who know who the cool black dude is, sticking it to the American establishment is going to be a strong positive. This campaign has no commercial downside for Nike. Almost none of Nike’s customer base is in favour of the American government’s policy of having its cops murder random black people in the quiet periods when they aren’t busy herding toddlers into concentration camps, and will be broadly supportive of Americans who have taken a stand against that policy.

Were they the recipient of multiple nonsensical tweets by the President of the United States, a staged walkout by the Vice President of the Unites States, and a massive effort by the racist right to turn “don’t murder black people” into “I hate the US and it’s military?”

Because if not, I don’t think they’re really comparable.

They should make a new slogan “Cops are shooting people, buy Nikes!!!”

Think things might have changed in the last 18 months?

That wasn’t a contract, it was a stipulation for a trade offer. Kaepernick didn’t need a contract when Elway requested he take a 75% pay cut. That’s not an offer, it’s a joke.

Again, as a free agent (hint: not under contract), what was Elway’s offer?

Seriously, do you not actually understand the issue?

There are literally zero people complaining that Kaepernick wasn’t offered contracts by NFL teams before he began his protest. 100% of the complaints have to do with a lack of contract offers after he began his protests. Did Elway offer him a contract after his protests became an issue? The entire point of the suit you mentioned is that Kaep was blackballed after protesting.

In fact, Elway’s offer is MORE evidence of malfeasance. He was willing to pay Kaep $7m per year in 2016, before the protest, and $0m per year after the protest.

So, yes Elway offered him a contract, pre-protest. So did the 49ers, if we want to discuss ancient history.

That’s not a contradiction, though. He’s still very widely known among those who do know anything about the NFL. There’s really not much else going on that’s newsworthy.

I do think he’d be more easily identifiable if he’d actually taken a knee in the ad, though.