Since we’re in the Pit, I guess I can ask if you have a fucking cite for this piece of bullshit misinformation, or if you checked your brain at the door and believe every piece of nonsense non-doctor politicians chuck your way in their attempts to drag women’s rights into the 12th century.
On the other hand, doubleplus bonus points for non-ironic use of the word “hysteria” in an abortion thread. Well done.
Now we’re talking. I’d also like them to mandate stress tests and transrectal probes, since we have to make sure their cardiovascular health is okay and that there’s nothing wrong with the prostate that might be aggravated by sexual activity. Oh, what’s that you say? That doctors have other, cheaper, less invasive ways of checking that stuff? You don’t say…
A government mandate for people to spend their own private money on a procedure that someone else wants done? Or will the gov’t be footing the bill? In which case it is more spending.
And doesn’t this bill discriminate against blind pregnant women who will not benefit from the womb with a view?
And, since all of us women know that impotence is often a psychological problem (its all in their pretty little heads), before we prescribe unnecessarily a medication with potential side effects, they should need a psychological screening to make sure we address the real root cause.
To me is it simply the reasonable way to respect and honor the life of the unborn child who will soon be dead. I’m not talking about transvaginal ultrasounds, women’s right to abortion IMHO includes her right to refuse such invasive procedures for the fetus, nor does it require she views the ultrasound. But a external ultrasound is just a way to acknowledge that the fetus is one of us, a human just in bad circumstances. Not that I consider myself a conservative.
Since most abortions are done early in pregnancy, I wonder if this won’t backfire. Early embryos don’t look very much like babies. I say this as someone who is 18 weeks into a wanted pregnancy, who has been looking at those “your pregnancy week by week” sites since I missed that first period. Embryo at 6 weeks. 7 weeks. If you saw those on an ultrasound, you wouldn’t say they looked like babies. Embryos start to look vaguely humanoid around 8 weeks, but not really that much like a baby.
And to me, I think a woman should be the one to choose how she wants to respect and honor the life of the unborn child who will soon be dead. I don’t find a medical test particularly honoring. I’d rather plant a tree in my aborted child’s honor, or donate some money to The March Of Dimes. I’ll hold my own ceremony to thank the spirit of the child for making me face some hard truths about what I want out of life, and let it know I appreciate its brief time spent on this plane. I’ll light a candle in prayer that the procedure be done with a minimum of complications - physical, mental, spiritual, emotional and political - and thank God that I’ve been born into a country where abortion is legal.
I have plenty of honor and respect. I have lots of ideas for how to show that honor and respect. I don’t need you, a state governor a Pope or any other person on this planet telling me how to honor and respect my own child, whether I chose to bring it into this world alive or dead.
I think we need to honor and respect the children who are already on the ground, so to speak. I’m not talking about helicopter parenting as done by those who really wanted kids and think they can do no wrong, I’m talking about those babies who go hungry, who get little or no attention or education, who are the victims of abuse, who are born with alcohol and drug related problems, who were born because their mother was pressured into it, one way or another. Let’s focus on them, rather than on a clump of cells with minimal, if any, consciousness that might not make it to term anyway.
Two different topics really - one is a ham-fisted way to be more pro-life and is driven by the social conservatives. The other is anti-government bit and is driven by the libertarian conservatives.
That said, I think that before you get Viagra you have to watch 70s porn for an hour, while being observed, to see if you really need it.
I don’t give a fucking shit what your views are. Don’t fucking force others to undergo needless medical procedures in order to adhere to them.
I am so fucking sick of conservative santimonious shitheadery on their fucking supposed love of life. One of my neighbors and friends has advanced breast cancer. She temporarily lost her medical insurance because of a fuck up by the medical insurance company. It took her over a month to get it cleared up. No local Reps would help her. No a single fucking Republican. They all shrugged at a woman probably dying of breast cancer. At one point she was in my house and one of them called her back solely to be unhelpful and add to her stress.
I routinely get asshole mailings by supposed pro-lifers demanding that I vote for Republican assholes who attack teachers, rail against national health care and demand hand outs to our society’s greediest pigs.
So STFU.
How many children do you have, anyway? Because I have two. I love them both beyond words but you have no goddamned idea how hard it is to watch them. My ten month old baby cried for over an hour today. Nothing soothed her. Not a walk. Not nursing, not the cat, not a teething ring. An entire hour of screaming.
You should be all be down on your hands and knees we even think of going through with childbearing at all instead of whining that we occasionally choose not to.
At the rate they’re crankin’ 'em out (92 anti-women bills passed by state legislatures in 2011 alone), it won’t be long until you see that exact bill. We’re actually pretty close to that already:
“A federal appeals court this month upheld a Texas law that requires a woman seeking an abortion to undergo a sonogram, forces doctors to describe that sonogram in detail to her and then requires that she wait 24 hours before she can undergo the procedure.”
And once again we have an ignorant man telling falsehoods about a women’s reproductive procedure that he knows jack shit about. Why don’t you just STHU you idiotic twit.
Leave it to a man to find nothing unreasonable about forced penetration of women. Pig.
Yes, and I stood and applauded her. You have no idea how much I want every blue state in this country to pass a law just like this.
Great catch!
Bwaaahahahaha! “A human, just in bad circumstances.” OMG that’s a riot!
I think the fact that the GOP came up with the mandate in the first place is telling. Many GOP pols, despite the rhetoric of the last few years, actually love mandates for private-sector purchases. Or love them so long as they are imposed on someone else. And women seeking abortions are very very much “someone else.”
Given the sheer number of “boner” pill commercials I’ve seen, there’s either a massive epidemic of erectile dysfunction or doctors are prescribing them for purely recreational purposes. With, apparently, no questions asked by the bodies that regulate prescription drugs.
If you get caught prescribing benzodiazepines or opiates for purely recreational purposes on the other hand.
Sounds like there really is a need to look at exactly what medical testing should be required to get a 'script for 'em, don’t it?
It’s not the GOP mindset in toto; it’s the mindset of the religious whackjobs that infest the GOP. The rational ones among us think it’s a totally asshole maneuver.
I’m a conservative but not a Republican, and I resemble this remark!
Tip your waitress, I’ll be hier all ze veek…
Anyway…
I don’t know what the fuck exactly is going on in this story. But I do know that abortion makes me gag, mostly because I fully support *Roe v Wade *despite my conservative leanings because I don’t believe government can or should legislate what you can do with your body (harming others aside) and also because I’ve been “privy” to THREE abortions in my life, and I am not happy about any of them. Perhaps that’s a separate issue but I feel its OK for me to experience simultaneous emotional responses of both support and revulsion regarding the issue…and still morally falling on the side of pro-choice…
