Not what was I arguing. More like, since you posited that
it might be wise to keep in mind that, similarly, reports of Columbus’s alleged perfidies might be minimized, misinterpreted, or simply denied by other interested parties. That’s all.
I kinda like that story. It’s not like Bobadilla wsan’t a dirtbag, either. It reminds me of true crime accounts where you hope that all the parties involved suffer some unfortunate end, and often they do, at the hands of their erstwhile partners…
Yes, Isabella ruled against it- but then, she was only Queen of Castile and she died. All I said was that taking slaves in the 15th century was very common, which it was. Sure perhaps the Indians were *technically *not chattel slaves, but many were treated as such, and the Spanish certainly had no compunctions about slavery overall.
*Slaving interests used a succession of verbal strategies for justifying and retaining unfree Indian labor. As early as 1503 tribes designated as “cannibals” became fair game, as were Indian prisoners seized in “just wars.” Hereafter labeled esclavos de guerra (war slaves), their cheeks bore a branded “G.” Automatic servitude also awaited any hapless Indians, known as esclavos de rescate (ransomed slaves), whom Spanish slavers had freed from other Indians who had already enslaved them; the letter “R” was seared into their faces…Over the next two centuries the encomienda system and other local forms of unfree labor were used to create a virtually enslaved Indian workforce throughout Mexico, Florida, the American Southwest, down the South American coast, and over to the Philippines.
It is the point- that accusation was from Bobadilla and it is greatly disputed, Bobadilla being a noted foe of Columbus. Note that Columbus wasnt found guilty of any of Bobadilla’s charges.
You brought in the 10th century. My point was the simple theft of food was commonly met with execution. I proved it with the English and other societies, true, right now I can’t find it in france but it was so very common you’d have to show that stealing wasn’t punished by execution in france. I did find that cutting off the hand was even more common, and that’s pretty damn barbaric. And while true, fines were the most common in that cite, that cite also listed "More severe cases could be punishable by flogging, the cutting off of one or both ears or a hand, or death by hanging. " So a execution for theft was not rare.