Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

“I wish law enforcement had much better training to deal with mental health situations rather than just start shooting.”

Are you implying that’s what happened here or just making a general statement? I read the article and didn’t see where it said the cops just started shooting. As a matter of fact, it said less lethal rounds were tried as was physical restraint. You are either using a poor example to make your point or didn’t read the article that you cited.

That’s fine, but the purpose of the confrontation was to get him to put down the knife so that he could be brought to the hospital. 6 different law enforcement organizations sent officers to help get one guy to the hospital, and the result was shooting him dead.

What I would like to believe is that he was doing something other than reacting to the police confronting and attacking him.

The Los Angeles police chief has ordered his cops to collect the social media information from every person they encounter, suspect or not.

Cop who wanted to beat up an old woman with dementia cost the tax payers $3 million.

The only controversial parts are (1) a man shot a Texas State Trooper and was not summarily killed, or at least beaten to unconsciousness, and (2) with the man admitting he shot the officer, he was no-billed by a Texas Grand Jury.

Paxton seems to be loosing his grip.

It would be nice to know what initiated the whole incident, the news report does not say. There is, however, this little gem:

And that’s fine, too. My point is that Past tense seemed to imply that the cops just showed up and started blasting. That is not what happened.

Going hands on against a knife wielder is generally considered bad tactics. As is commonly the case, there is far to little information in the article to form any sort of informed opinion.

Can you imagine the McMichaels’ reaction when they were told They just arrested Jacquelyn?

Wait, what? followed by Oh shit, we really aren’t getting out of this.

I hope she goes to jail, too. Corrupt prosecutors are worse than crooked cops, IMHO.

I’ve been wondering if this case would come up here on its own but MikeF’s comment is a good reason :

tl/dr - the Chief of Suffolk police beat the crap out of a junkie who had broken into his car, stole some embarrassing stuff, and then it all got covered up by the DA and his assistant, who lead the Anti-Corruption Bureau. The Feds prosecuted and won.

I learned of this case when this NYT story caught my eye:

The shocking part was that I knew the ADA very well, as family friends. He has destroyed his and his family’s life, just to protect his cop pal.

Yeah. I brought it up a bit earlier.

Loveland, Colorado – where the inarguably tough young cops brutalized the 73 year old woman with dementia, eventually costing the City $3M – still harbors a Brady Cop, Detective Brian Koopman:

It’s truly a “you can’t make this shit up” concept.

And a sergeant that will undoubtedly end up on the list. The sgt. that oversaw the violent arrent of the 73 year old, took multiple steps to hide his body cam footage of the incident. Only a holy crusade from the woman’s lawyer uncovered it. It’s a particularly bad department.

:face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

FUCK beliefs.

On a positive note, woman wins $2M lawsuit against the city that removed the statue of Frank Rizzo from the public square.

The police smashed her window, dragged her out of the car and laid to on her in front of her child. Then, as if that were not enough, they used her child in their own propaganda, lying about the circumstances to make themselves look all caring and empathetic.

Aurora Police Department confirmed as racist cy Colorado AG

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/elijah-mcclain-s-hometown-police-department-targeted-black-people-investigation-finds/ar-AAOwNIL

The stop and detainment of McClain was in line with the Aurora Police Department’s pattern of arresting and using force against Black people, an [investigation]
Nearly 50% of “use of force” incidents in Aurora were against Black people, but only 15% of the city’s population is Black, the report found

Yeah, not surprised.

(dons flameproof suit) I’ve heard all along that he was not a suitable candidate for police work (and he’d had other complaints lodged against him) but was hired because of pressure from the powerful Somali community in the Twin Cities. I suspect this also contributed to his release.

He hasn’t been released. He’s still convicted of manslaughter, but never sentenced. So he’ll remain in custody til his sentence hearing on manslaughter. Which will probably earn him a sentence of 4 to 5 years. He’ll get credit for the 28 months he’s already served but he’ll stay in jail.

For reference: he was sentenced to 12½ years for murder3. Under Minnesota statutes you serve ⅔ of your sentence in jail and are on parole for ⅓. So he would have been in jail for 8⅓ years.
If he gets 5 for manslaughter he’ll have to serve 40 months, with 20 months of parole. Less than his total time in jail would have been, but by no means a light sentence.

The Marshal was just so casual as he punched/slapped this handcuffed guy. I wonder if he’ll get fired?

Good for him, but I would be making plans to move out of state and scrub the internet of his data if I were him. No way I’d want to be stopped in that jurisdiction after that.

In 2017, a court ruled that the California Highway Patrol’s practice of a mandatory 30 day impoundment on vehicles driven by unlicensed drivers is unconstitutional (requiring the registered owner to pay 30 days worth of impound fees regardless of whether they were eligible to pick up the car sooner). The practice continues despite the ruling 4 years ago.