Thank you for describing your tactics here, but what’s your point?
Are you going to make an argument that Blake was not shot in the back, contrary to what I have seen with my own eyes?
Are you saying that the video was faked? Are you saying that my eyes deceive me?
All you are doing is making assertions and demanding that others accept them as gospel truth. How about actually putting some effort into trying to convince anyone that you aren’t completely full of shit?
This isn’t an actual argument. He was shot in the back. Maybe there are circumstances in which it’s okay to shoot someone in the back, but it’s ridiculous to present this as such a circumstance based on the video evidence.
American society has decreed that black men between the ages of 15 and 50 are superhumanly aggressive, strong, fast, and just plain dangerous, unless they’re wearing a suit and a short “clean” haircut (or some other “uniform of safety”). And law enforcement has embraced this, welcomed this, and used this as justification for brutality and murder again and again.
I don’t know if an updated video was shared. Blake is seen struggling by the passenger side rear tire of his SUV with one cop while another stands back too far to be of any assistance. Blake manages to free himself and walks around the front of the car with both cops following him just before he opens the door and gets shot at point blank range in the back. The car windows are very dark and it’s not unreasonable to ask whether the police knew there were children in the car.
I know nothing about police procedure but it seems to be this entire incident could have been avoided if both cops were able subdue him. They first lost control of the situation by letting him get up and walk away. Then they really fucked by shooting him. Who is training these cops and why are they so completely inept at making arrests that don’t end up in unnecessary shooting?
TL;DR for those at home, Slacker once again reiterates his concern that white people must be pandered to in all instances or they will vote for Trump (which he certainly doesn’t want them to do wink wink).
I’ll also add that law enforcement culture has raised the bar for what is acceptable risk to the point that it appears that cops will often shoot someone, especially if they’re black, rather than risk getting hand to hand, even if they outnumber the suspect 3 to 1 or more and there’s no evidence the suspect is armed.
All this could have been avoided if this big group of cops had just tackled and cuffed the guy. Is the cowardice personal or institutional?
Or deescalate rather than “subdue”.
I’m still not entirely sure what it was that he was being arrested for.
Aren’t you the guy who admitted your son says you’re racist?
This thread made me think of the ‘Emergency 911’ shows coming out of the UK. At least once per episode a perp ends up cussing out the officer and resisting arrest and the entire time the cop is the epitome of politeness and manners.
Then, after the perp is back at the police station, the cop gives the perp A CUP OF TEA. We should hire Brits to train our officers.
He was LITERALLY shot in the back. The cops were in no danger and had ample opportunity to restrain him, and instead they decided to try to murder him in broad daylight, much like George Floyd. What the fuck is wrong with you? You and the other racists on this board try to find any excuse possible to justify the shooting of Black people.
The Wisconsin AG said that police were called when Jacob Blake’s girlfriend (ex?) called them to report that he was not supposed to be in her apartment. They police tried to taser him but it didn’t work. I guess once you taser somebody, you’ve passed the point of de-escalation. No idea how hard they tried before taking more aggressive actions.
Remember this incident in Phoenix?
You know, after ruminating on this some, I’ve changed my mind: you were right to post what you did and for the reasons you did. It’s not enough to know it happens and show examples; we need to remind ourselves of the contrast in how people are treated differently.
One of the things that changed my mind was this video, posted about 12 hours ago today. The sheer number of examples in 28 minutes of video of white people NOT being gunned down like rabid animals is staggeringly effective in driving the point home, I thought.
At present, deescalation is simply not an option. Literally, not an option. The police are ipso facto, by their very presence in a situation, a threat. They have demostrated this fact, over and over and over again. Even sometimes in the case of white people, but almost always toward black people, it is the only way they know how to behave.
Part of the problem harkens to their origins as protectors of the peerage. They are an ill-fitting tool to have in a free, class-mobile society, and their role is poorly defined, beyond the task of keeping lesser folk under control. And though there need to be changes made to the way we maintain order in society, the police are but a symptom of a much larger set of issues that have to be dealt with.
Remember, White privilege isn’t real.
I once had to call the police to trespass someone for assaulting one of my employees and continuing to verbally harass her, the other employees, and customers.
The cop talked to him for a bit, then they left, going their separate ways. (He was white, BTW.)
So yeah, I get why the cops were called, I still don’t know what he was being arrested for.
From all I could tell, he was trying to leave, and the cops were not allowing him to. Going to the extent of shooting him to keep him from leaving.
It’s just a guess but if he had a restraining order that he violated, hence the girlfriend calling the police, would that be justification to detain him?
Assuming that your guess is at all correct, then still no. It would be a justification to give him a summons to appear in court over his violation, but the priority would be to get him to leave.
Deescelation should always be the goal, not arrests.
Sure, it’s a justifiable reason to detain him. And yeah, maybe he was trying to leave, but anyone with a lick of sense would know he didn’t have that option by that point. People like LeBron are saying they are “terrified” of the police, but many of the people on these various videos seem like they are just the opposite. They think if they can win a fistfight with the cops, it’s a get-out-of-jail-free card or something. With this level of IQ, it’s a wonder they can even pass a driver’s test.
These are valid points. It’s also valid to ask why something like this makes LeBron or anyone else “terrified” unless they plan on resisting arrest. As Sam Harris has said many times, there are clearly a lot of people who need to learn how to be arrested! Strikes me as common sense, but obviously for many people it is not.
What Chingon doesn’t seem to get is that if I wanted more people to vote for Trump, I wouldn’t be trying to get Democrats to pander to white Wisconsin swing voters! Trump’s fondest dream is for Democrats to completely ignore what I am advising here, and any MAGA-head with a lick of sense will read what I’m writing here and hold their breath hoping Dems don’t do any of the things I’m urging them to.
Yes, and my son also scoffs at Bernie Sanders for being a “fake socialist”. (In 2016 he adored Bernie, but now that’s weak tea, apparently. He’s 20. 
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As I alluded to upthread, we could operate that way if we had the number of guns per capita that the UK does. Anticipating someone replying that this would be a great idea: sure! I was a big Beto backer, after all. But that’s not what the facts are on the ground as of now.
And then they tried to tackle him, and that didn’t work. They drew their guns on him and warned him to stop, and that didn’t work: he still continued to march over to the driver’s side of the car, open the door, and reach in. Gosh, what on Earth could have given them the idea by this point that he was dangerous and might be going for a gun? 
No argument there.