Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

If I give something to an armoured car company to deliver, my assumption is that once their representative has it (and certain once it is in the car), they are fully responsible for it until it reaches the contracted destination. The fact that the thieves were LEOs and not the Dalton gang shouldn’t change that.

Plus, I can’t believe they went through that county three times. I realize it is probably way out of their way to avoid it, but assuming they are just passing through, rerouting after the second time would seem prudent.

Typical. Too lazy to work, too cowardly to steal without the color of authority. The thin blue line never fails to react exactly the way you’d expect.

The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors has stripped the County Sheriff of his power to enforce vaccination rules after refusing to require his staff to get vaccinated.
Too bad they couldn’t fire him, but he’s an elected official.

The LA Sheriff’s Department is a hopelessly corrupt agency that (based on my reading, anyway) needs to be entirely broken down and recreated. Dozens of gangs, including white supremacist gangs, literally operate from within the department (and Villanueva himself has been associated with at least one such gang):

His last name was “Pullease”?!

Two kids in a minor fight at mall. One white, one black. The cops tackle to black kid and cuff him and leave him on the ground, the white kid gets to sit on a couch, uncuffed.

At this point, the officers know nothing about either kid (other than skin color) or what started the incident.

I heard that that the white teen asked the cops why he wasn’t arrested and handcuffed too. How fucked up are the cops that a kid is asking them why they’re mistreating the other kid he was just throwing punches at. It’s like “yeah, I was punching him in the face, but you guys are being jerks”.

I find something hopeful in that.

John Oliver had a show on this very topic a few years ago.

At least 19 APD officers face indictments linked to May 2020 protests

The district attorney said the facts discovered through his office’s investigation of the incidents are “disturbing,” and they believe many protesters injured by law enforcement during the protests were “innocent bystanders.”

Garza said the protesters suffered “significant and serious injuries to the head, face and body,” and some may never recover.

Police being violent at a protest about police violence, whoda thunk it?

Cop pulled a gun on her and through her to the ground because he saw a gun permit and though ‘she might have a gun’, which the permit makes OK

I’d say that African Americans should try and normalize Black people carrying weapons, but the transition to normality would be much too dangerous. The Second Amendment is only for white people.

I can’t help but wonder if there might be ‘targeted’ legislative blowback to such a thing.

Hmm.

Maybe that would stop the SCOTUS from continuing to expand gun rights.

Imagined conversation at the Thomas household:

Ginni: What are you going to do, Clarence ?

Clarence: I DON’T KNOW ! STOP HASSLING ME, ALREADY !!

[and … scene]

Police were called to a store for a report of theft by a thirty year old white male in a green jacket. They decide to detain a 60 year old male in an orange jacket (who walked into the store after the police did). Good luck telling a jury that this guy matched the description.

Hey, I know that guy. I remember him telling me about this encounter, he was pretty upset about it. He’s actually a pretty awesome and laid back person, normally.

Maybe this story should go to inform the thread on when police can lie to you. It has several examples of cops just straight up lying to his face, trying to get him to admit to something he didn’t do. (Yeah, your perception is high enough that you thought that he was “mirroring you” but you couldn’t tell the color of his skin, or even the color of his jacket?)

In the news report, he talks about how he is ashamed of the language that he used, and how angry he presented himself as. I can understand though, if you get profiled and harrassed on a regular basis, eventually coming to a tipping point. I think another factor was that he was actually in a pretty safe place, a well lit grocery store, with plenty of cameras, and in an environment where people know him, as he is a well known and respected member of the community, it was pretty unlikely that they would have shot him. If he had acted out like that on the side of the road at night, he’d get a good chance of catching a bullet.

Anyway, just goes to show that a cop doesn’t actually have to kill a person in order to harm them. For every Black man shot, hundreds or thousands of these little encounters happen, beating and wearing them down, ensuring that they know that they are not considered to be citizens with equal standing to a white person.

I thought his restraint was impeccable given the circumstances. Knowing that he walked into the store AFTER the police arrived, would be justification enough for a full on tirade. Now, if he had known that the call was for a white man, and he was getting stopped instead… I suspect that I would have made enough of a scene to get myself arrested.

Another pet peeve of mine was on display in this video: when an officer approaches a white suspect, 90% of the time they refer to him as “sir”. Nearly every video I see where they approach a black suspect (or “suspect” in this case), they call him “boss” or “my man” or similar. In and of itself, the terms are not offensive. But when you compare the two, it’s pretty condescending.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-records-confirm-officers-knew-a-3-month-old-baby-was-in-the-front-seat-when-they-opened-fire-on-the-vehicle-killing-the-boy-and-his-father/ar-AAUwBbQ?li=BBnb7Kz

As Insider previously reported, Eric Derrell Smith kidnapped his son after murdering La’Mello’s mother and her nephew at a home in Louisiana on May 3, 2021.

And it was more important to kill them both than try to save the kid.