Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

No. Sigs are not cheap. MPD went to Sig from Smith & Wesson M&P because the former Chief preferred Sigs. Sig Sauers are high quality, well made and quite expensive.

What appears to be happening, from the data I read, there may be a malfunction in the “drop safety”, an internal safety device that prevents the weapon from firing if it is dropped or jarred. Most striker fired duty weapons and some hammer fired weapons are single action, meaning if there is a round in the chamber the weapon is cocked. Internal safeties are meant to prevent an accidental discharge if the trigger is not pulled. If such a safety is not functioning properly a pistol can fire if moved around or even lightly tapped.

Thankfully this seems to be a problem isolated to this specific model of firearm. Other than this issue every officer i know that has a Sig 320 loves it.

The fact that the union is only trying to get the department to change weapons and not trying to get money from the manufacturer tells me they are sincere in their concern of officer safety and not out for a buck.

There’s no claim that this cop actually did violence to anyone on the job (though I wouldn’t put it past him), but holy shit, talk about the wrong attitude to be a cop…

Not to worry, the Seattle police union will get him his job back inside of eighteen months.

I have a 40 minute commute to work, and have been listening to episodes of Audit the Audit. (I can’t see the videos, obviously. But I think the videos are less important than the audio.) The commentary by the lawyers is fantastic, and fairly unbiased. I am now much more knowledgeable on what my rights are in a police encounter.

I’ve probably listened to 50 episodes now. It is truly amazing how these cops bully people in to giving up their rights.

You have rights? I would refrain from mentioning that to them – even if you are white. One thing I am given to understand is that you may not lie to them, but they are entitled to pile the bullshit up over your head. Best to just not tell them anything. “I don’t know about that” is probably the best way to respond, and never volunteer anything. And beware of chit-chat.

Others have thought the same thing, and they turned out to be dead right.

I just heard about that on CBS News. The rookie cop shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.

Full headline: Uvalde School Districts Suspends It’s Entire Campus Police Force For Unknown Period.

How about forever. Does forever work for you?

Florida Man cop arrested by fellow cops for running over a fire hose and interfering with a fire crew trying to put out a fire.

From above article:

I love multiple fucking-up. Well, the almost-running-over-another-cop part I’m not too overly impressd with.

The San Antonio cop who shot the kid sitting in his car has been arrested.

Even Dutch police are horrible. Police in Rotterdam are going to start undressing young people on the street who they, in their infinite wisdom, are wearing clothes they’re too poor to wear.

That’s some America shit right there.

America is metastasizing.

There’s some local context missing. Gangs and organized crime have sharply escalated in the Netherlands in the last few years. Within the last few days, a teenaged member of the royal family had to withdraw from school in the face of credible kidnap/ransom threats from criminal gangs. The premise of the program is to give police new tools to try to disrupt these organizations.

The objections are entirely fair, in that there’s a real fear the powers will be used to persecute racial minorities to the exclusion of white criminals. But this new policy didn’t arise in a vacuum.

The objection to the Dutch law isn’t that it might be invoked where it’s inappropriate. It’s that there is no situation where it’s appropriate. I’m sorry to hear that they have a gang problem, but that doesn’t justify introducing new, unrelated problems.

Do Dutch citizens have some sort of implicit (or expressed) right to Due Process? And/or to not have their possessions taken from them (or searched) or what have you?

Chapter 1 (Fundamental Rights) of the The Constitution of the Kingdom of the Netherlands 2018 (link to download PDF) seems to cover that.

Montreal cops handcuff an innocent black man, then when they determined there was no reason to retain him, they didn’t have any keys to unlock the cuffs.