Apparently it’s a surprisingly common “accident”. It’s almost like it’s done on purpose - the expected outcome probably not being “shattered spine” or “dead body” of course. Just beating the “perp” up in a “look ma, no hands !”, plausibly deniable kind of way.
In *my *day they used phonebooks for that. You just can’t stop progress !
As you said a minute ago, “This isn’t Great Debates, so I’m not citing something that’s blindingly obvious and that everyone should know.”
Not when his prisoner is cuffed and shackled. The police have a duty of care towards those in their custody, absent any evidence that the prisoner attacked them with lethal force. Since we have no evidence that such an attack took place, they can hardly claim they were defending themselves.
While laying, shackled and cuffed, on the floor of a paddy wagon? One of us has a very active imagination.
Can you prove that the injuries happened after he was cuffed and shackled? Can you prove that a cuffed and shackled person cannot possibly cause willful injury to another?
Since we have no evidence that he was maliciously assaulted, we can hardly claim a murder occurred.
I’m not talking about people fighting, I’m talking about people who have given up, are lying on the ground, often already handcuffed, and in the case I mentioned, already shot.
You might also enjoy that video of the guy who stole the horse getting the crap kicked out of him long after he submitted, again without ever fighting, just running.
One of the police already said he was OK when he went in to the back of the van.
I don’t have to. There is no evidence of such an attack, so speculation is unsupported.
I never said it was murder. But the police have a duty of care once he is in custody. If they can’t prove he attacked them, or self-inflicted his injuries, they are responsible for anything that happens to him.
What, so now you trust the police?
You opened that door.
He ran from the police. Everything that happened to him from that point on was self-inflicted.
Running is fighting. You may as well just suck on a Remington for all the good it’ll do you.
Not after the was shackled and cuffed. Duty of care.
As most people learn by about age 12, when someone makes a statement that is against his own interest, it is more likely to be truthful than when he says something that will benefit him.
I knew America had this whole “tough on crime” shit going on, but I did not realize up to this point that “moving away from a police officer” was, in fact, a capital crime. The more you know.
I really don’t see how anyone can doubt that his injuries and death were caused by the police failing to strap him in and then driving recklessly… And I suspect that the officers will be punished appropriately for it.
None of which has anything to do with race, or beatings, or murder, or justification for riots.
Oh, and note that in the few cases where people were injured like this in the past they received multi-million dollar payouts. Strange how that isn’t happening to all the other “innocent victims”, isn’t it.
Of course, most people also learn that, just because you don’t believe a statement, you can’t assume the opposite is true without evidence.
Sorry, I didn’t realize that English is not your native language.
It’s possible for both sides to be in the wrong, and both sides to be responsible. Someone who resists arrest or flees the police is in the wrong.
There is no evidence the police drove recklessly.