Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

I’ll bet you have black friends, too.

Would it be illegal/unconstitutional for police departments to have a “black officers only” policy for patrolling black majority neighborhoods?

Black or white, they need to get back to having cops who walk a beat, on foot. Community policing from the seat of a cruiser is a joke.

I’m not sure if you’re a racist or not, but saying “I’m not racist” does nothing to sway me either way. That’s how an unknowing racist would respond. But I can’t read your mind. I do think that you’ve made racist assertions – chiefly that black people who are mistreated after being arrested deserve such mistreatment, and making negative generalizations about millions, most of whom are decent and peaceful individuals.

I recognize that there’s a possibility that I hold racist beliefs, and I think it’s wise for everyone to recognize this about themselves. Saying “I’m not racist” provides no information other than one doesn’t believe that they are racist, which describes the vast majority of racists (and non-racists) in human history. I strive to identify and purge any such beliefs if they exist, but I welcome scrutiny of my comments and actions for possible racism. I want to improve myself, and identifying things I’ve stated that might be racist would help me improve myself.

No such thing. One can’t unknowingly treat people differently because of their skin colour. It’s a conscious action.

Complete nonsense.

Do you really believe a store owner cannot unknowingly make assumptions about a patron because of skin color? Do you really believe a police officer cannot unknowingly make assumptions about a bystander or citizen because of skin color? Do you really believe unknowing assumptions can’t factor into actions?

This assertion goes far beyond “is false” to “displays startling ignorance.”

It’s kind of amazing that someone can actually believe that not only are there no unknowing racists on earth, but there never have been and can’t possibly be.

Using the logic found online, everybody is racist.

“I have no particular love for the idealized ‘worker’ as he appears in the bourgeois Communist’s mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood worker in conflict with his natural enemy, the policeman, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on.”

George Orwell

Police are workers too.

The policeman is not the enemy of the worker, he’s the worker’s ally against the criminal.

I’d love to see you pitch that line to someone who lost their home, business, livelihood, job, or all of the above because of those rioters. Tell them it’s a good thing that they’re now broke, unemployed, or homeless, because it will Inspire People To Action and help The Cause.

I’m sure it’ll be an easy sell.

Or does the way they’ve been lawlessly victimized through no fault of their own not matter because they’re not the right sort of victims?

This is how it’s supposed to be, but through history it often was not reality.

Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! I didn’t know you did comedy, Smapti! Hell, I didn’t even know you had a sense of humor!

If we look through American history, whenever most members of a minority have asserted that injustice and unfair treatment were occurring, they’ve been right. Black Americans in 1850 who complained of injustice; Native Americans in the 19th century; black Americans in the Jim Crow South; gay Americans in recent decades; all of them (and many other groups) were right. I tend to think that this pattern isn’t coincidental, and it’s not accidental. If most black people today are saying “X is happening and it’s wrong”, then I think it’s most likely that they’re as correct as black people in 1850, 1900, and 1950 were – X really is happening, and it’s wrong. They’re not lying, and they’re not making it up, for the most part, just like all those groups through American history weren’t either.

…so there really is a War on Christmas, you’re saying.

Nope. Christians aren’t a minority, and the majority of Christians aren’t saying this. Go ahead and keep looking. And go ahead and disbelieve the majority of black people who are asserting ongoing injustice – that’s never, in all of American history, ever been a winning tactic. The majority of black people have always been right about injustices against black people. Always.

47% isn’t close enough to a majority for you?

So the CIA really did invent AIDS in order to kill off the blacks.

47% is not a majority, and it’s not even close to the cited majorities of black people (80-90%) who believe that black people are not treated fairly by law enforcement and the criminal justice system.

And, again, Christians aren’t a minority.

In what universe do a majority (much less 80-90%) of black people believe this?

Why do you habitually pull crap out of your ass and assert it as if it’s true?

Maybe it’s all he’s got, iiandyiii.