Is there any point at which a cop is expected to put their own life at risk when dealing with someone who may or may not be threatening them?
I apologize for not arguing at your level of expertise. I hope this response is more suitable: I’m rubber and you’re glue-what you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
Neener Neener,
Czarcasm
“Complicit” is part of the bad-apple category.
You misspelled “BLAMPolicedropyourgun”.
Psycho cop snaps kills woman shoots her daughter
What just adds to the cynicism I feel toward the police right now is this comment from the article:
From a completely separate stalking incident with another woman. He was convicted - not just accused, but convicted - of harassment. Twice. And still had his job.
He just killed a woman. Shot her daughter. Reloaded the damn thing. But is he dead? He’s an obvious danger to everyone, included the cops coming on the scene. Nope, he gets to call in his own goddamn crime on his police radio, and tell his friends, “I’m unarmed”. He’s in the hospital because his victim’s husband shot him and his friends, the other cops, didn’t leave him to bleed out. But some would justify killing a 12 year old with a toy gun within a couple of seconds on showing up. Who didn’t actually try to hurt any one. Choking a guy selling single cigarettes. Who again, didn’t actually try to hurt any one. Screw the police and their fucking “us vs. them” attitude.
Truly terrifying (hunted by a member of the very group that is supposed to protect you???), and more than a little confusing.
Was he a member of two different police forces at the same time? Is Colwyn Police the same as Delco Police? If so, why did he still have a service weapon, bullet proof vest and police radio?
These questions along with the very obvious and already asked 'How the fuck does a guy with multiple harassment convictions have a job in Law Enforcement???
Was he able to keep a straight face when he said this? Did the reporters laugh or cringe? You do not arm yourself, don a bullet proof vest and kick in a door for a chat.
I, for one, would really like him to answer if he still thinks the allegations were overblown. ‘Have you had a chance to reconsider your previous idiotic statement?’
Another article, with a lot more detail.
Apparently, the convictions he got didn’t seem to all that important:
the thinking seems to have gone, “Eh, how bad could harassment and stalking really be?”
We’re, predictably, hearing crickets from the pro-police folk around here about this.
Fact is, I see cases on my Facebook feed every day that would get this exact response (that is, no response), for pretty much the same reason. Cases like this that offend any reasonable human are a dime a dozen these days. We live in a police state, wake up and smell the gunpowder, people.
I still don’t understand why some people are so slow to see how bad things have gotten. I’m almost afraid to ask what it would take to get enough people to wake up so that we could vote better people into office. Right now the political will is not there yet, it seems.
Perhaps because some people don’t believe that things have actually gotten worse, but that due to things like Facebook we’re all more aware of things that are happening - good and bad.
What would it take for someone to get voted into office? Someone who doesn’t just decry how bad things are but has a practical plan to make things better. For example, no-one’s complaining about police body cameras, no matter what side they’re on.
No complaints now…but lets see how often they “break down” when incidents involving injuries to citizens start up.
Back in April, the LAPD found many of their dashboard cameras had been tampered with, to disable the voice recording part. They decided not to investigate.
(The answer is yes, you fucking morons.)
We already knew you were mentally and emotionally retarded, so further examples are not necessary.
Regards,
Shodan
And he returns with an inappropriate “Nuh Uh-You are!” defense to the sarcastic remark.
I think I’ll now bow out and leave him with his “That means I win!” Tin Cup O’ Victory.
I told you it wasn’t necessary.
Regards,
Shodan
Steophan, not only had half the cameras been tampered with, but
Got anything to say about this?
The officers who removed or disabled the equipment should be charged with tampering with a motor vehicle. But of course they won’t.
It doesn’t really have much to do with my point, which is that commentators on both sides of this debate seem to support body cameras pretty much universally.
But since you want my thoughts, any officer proven to have tampered with a camera should be disciplined, and even if half of them have been tampered with, that’s still better than not having cameras at all. Assuming we have the whole story, it’s disgusting that they chose not to investigate.
This has a lot to do with your point, because it is one thing to say that you are for openness, as both sides have done for body cameras and had previously done for dash cameras, but the above case involving dash cameras shows that the police claiming that they are for such openness concerning body cams are just empty words for now.
I wasn’t talking about police support for the cameras. I was giving an example of a change that, to use the language someone else used, both pro- and anti-police commentators could support. I doubt anyone (well, possibly one person here…) would think it’s acceptable for there to be so many “failures”.