Again with this “2 seconds” lie. Do you really think that Rice couldn’t see or hear the car until it entered the camera’s frame of view?
“Crazy” is blaming the cops for the crimes they arrest people for.
No, generally in America it is not an affirmative defence. Rather sadly, this case happened in the one state in which it remains so*. Hopefully this case, and the attempts by people to make this cop prove his innocence, will encourage them to change that.
Not that I expect any jury to disbelieve someone who says they were in fear for their life as someone was reaching for a gun as they approached, when there’s video evidence consistent with that. There will still need to be some evidence that it wasn’t self defence, and that’s not been presented yet.
But the legal standard for the US in general, and undoubtedly the just and moral standard, is that one should not have to prove innocence in a criminal trial.
*I’ve only just checked this, and I’m surprised no-one’s mentioned it earlier. I falsely assumed this happened in one of the 49 states that accepts the right to self defence. Cite
Having the right to self defence doesn’t mean you are forced to exercise it. I certainly wouldn’t be crying any tears if that murderous cop had been shot by the other cops, though.
Ooh look, I admit a cop did wrong - when there’s actual evidence.
Who did he discharge a weapon at? Nobody. Who did he point it at? Himself. Who was he a threat to? Nobody but himself. The police did their job correctly by talking him down from killing himself. Are you arguing that it was necessary to kill him to prevent him from committing suicide?
If a black police officer who did the exact same thing behaved in the exact same way, and the cops who showed up at the scene knew him personally to the exact same extent that these cops knew this shooter, then yes.
Oh, and this? It’s because young black males are disproportionately violent, compared to any other demographic group. Including young black females, older black people of any gender, and young males of other races. Between, based on statistics in the other thread we had about this, 6 and 14 times more likely to commit violent crime than any other group.
So, obviously, the police will encounter far more young black men, and have good reason to be more fearful of them.
I’d need a cite that it’s based on anything more that the vastly greater likelihood of young black males being violent than any other group.
We also need some proper research into why that specific group is more violent, and what can be done about it. And we need that to happen without liberal idiots screaming “RACISM!!!” whenever it’s mentioned, as though that’s the sole cause, or even relevant.
And do you really think a 12 year old boy playing in the park who hears/sees a police car thinks that police car is coming for him?
Irrelevant to anything I said (whether or not any of this is true).
The 14 times was made up – it was 6 to 9 times. 
And per the numbers, young black men were shot 21 times as often as young white men.
A 12-year-old has the mental capacity to understand how to act in the presence of law enforcement.
Exactly what I was going to say. He’s a kid playing in the park who suddenly notices a police car screaming up to him. So he does what any kid playing in a park would do. He stands there thinking “What the heck is going on?”
I mean how many times can Smapti reveal just how far gone he is? Insane.
I believe his “false memories” loophole covers that too. Plus, they can be coerced. The only surefire way to avoid a false confession is not to ask the shooter any questions at all, because that might fluster and confuse them.
Just mop up the blood, pick up the shell casings, and wait for justice to strike again.
So he would have survived if he had a real gun and would have been discharging it, as long as it was in a direction away from the cops?
You are a horrrible, psychopathically deranged fascist. Insane.
Many, many times. This is the guy who would not free slaves in another country if he had a risk-free opportunity, and the guy who would turn in his Jewish neighbors if the government knocked on his door looking for Jews, and who believes “I was only following orders” is a valid and reasonable defense for atrocities, and who believes that MLK Jr.'s civil disobedience was wrong, and who believes that the only fucking morally correct actions for a slave in the pre-1860s US was to [must suppress vomit] obey their master, and many many more…
I don’t know and I lack the ability to stage a reenactment and find out.
Are you arguing that a 12-year-old shouldn’t be expected to know that the police can and often will shoot and kill you if you act threateningly in their presence?
He didn’t “act threateningly” in the video.
No, I just don’t want the district attorney to make that decision. Due to a clear conflict of interest, he is unable to come to an unbiased judgement.
He should know that if he simply stands still, he can still be shot, and there will be depraved awful worthless racist shitbags on the internet who will say he had it coming.
Cite for an incident where the police shot someone who was “simply standing still”?
It wasn’t made up, it was cited in that thread. And I’ve still no idea why you would expect there to be a linear relationship, but we also established in that other thread that you have no grasp of statistics.
Basically, there’s a good explanation for why more young black men are shot than any others, and it’s not racism. If it were, it would also be happening to older black men, and black women - and it isn’t.
A source with made-up numbers was cited in that thread (for the 14) – the 6 to 9 came from government stats.
No, u (actually, we established in that thread thanks to the input of professional statisticians that it was you that lacked the understanding of statistics).
There wasn’t a good explanation for why it was 21 times (and based on your argument, it seems that 10,000 times would have a “good explanation”).
But there’s no need to go through that entire thread again. In case anyone is interested, here is the thread we’re referring to.