Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

[septimus]

@BobLibDem

That’s seriously fucked up. I hope she sues them for tens of thousands. A busted headlight stop and you get strip searched in public?

And not just a strip search — Rectal probed; only offense being Black. Did the SS or Gestapo do this to Yellow star wearers? Is that America’s retort?: “Hey we’re not so bad. The Gestapo was doing that too.”

[Damuri_Ajashi]

@BobLibDem

That’s seriously fucked up. I hope she sues them for tens of thousands. A busted headlight stop and you get strip searched in public?

I think you meant tens of millions.

[Damuri_Ajashi]

@septimus

And not just a strip search — Rectal probed; only offense being Black. Did the SS or Gestapo do this to Yellow star wearers? Is that America’s retort?: “Hey we’re not so bad. The Gestapo was doing that too.”

I can’t imagine they would ever do that to a white or Asian woman without more evidence.

[eschereal]

@mhendo

As i said a bit earlier in the thread, i read the whole report, and there’s some ghastly stuff in there. The incident you mention in discussed on pp. 32-33:

… corroborated the woman’s story with testimony from several witnesses and by recovering the female officer’s latex gloves from the search location.…

So, along with everything else, the police are immune from littering infractions?

[dasmoocher]

Charges Show Cops’ Contradictions In Laquan McDonald Case

“When you have everyone talking about the code of silence within the police department, this is a perfect example of what this code of silence is all about,” said CBS2 Legal Correspondent Irv Miller.

Surely, Smapti can explain why this “code of silence” doesn’t exist.

[Rick_Kitchen]

Milwaukee police arrested a group of people who claim they were just “observing” police activity in an intersection where there have been demonstrations over the past several days. Unfortunately for the police, one of those arrested was a state representative and another was an ACLU rep.

[septimus]

The case of Gynnya McMillen is back in the news. Her death a few months ago in the care of Kentucky juvenile detention was not reported in this thread.

Surveillance video shows Windham staring through a window for 18 seconds, witnessing “her last gasps and dying breaths and final uncontrollable movements and seizure,” according to the lawsuit. He then turned around and walked away, attorneys say.
…
… four staffers used used an Aikido Control Technique restraint to remove [McMillen’s] shirt. The maneuver was performed behind a counter, which obscured the view of the one functioning surveillance camera in the room.
…
“From approximately 6:22 am until 3:44 pm, Gynnya was left in the isolation cell 423 on a metal bed frame without a mattress pad or blanket while she balled herself up in her sweatshirt to stay warm,” attorneys wrote in the lawsuit.
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It would be more than 10 hours after McMillen’s possible coughing fit and seizure before employees confirmed that McMillen had died. Along the way – the lawsuit claims, citing state investigators – they falsified logs for dozens of mandatory bed checks on the girl. In total, during McMillen’s day and night in detention, the lawsuit claims employees failed to check on her 64 times.

News stories often do not mention people’s races. The late Ms. McMillen was African-American.

[slumtrimpet]

The most disturbing part of this isn’t so much the 18 seconds when Wyndham watched her allegedly die (although that’s not exactly stellar), it’s the 10 hours after when other staff poked her, prodded her “pounded on her”, ate her breakfast etc. that shows an institutional lack of regard for their charges. Disgusting.
Falsifying the records also shows they were pretty damn aware of what pieces of shit they were.

[Clothahump]

@mhendo

For your benefit, here’s a transcript of the FBI Director’s comments about the email server issue.

Kindly point to the section that supports your assertion.

Emphasis mine.

Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute** making it a felony to mishandle classified information **either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department,** 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information** at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.

110 felonies committed, because each one would be a separate offense.

[Clothahump]

@Clothahump

The director of the FBI announced publicly that she committed felonies. That’s not good enough for you?

@Steophan

No.

Might I ask why? Is it simply because she The Ghodess Hillary or is there some other reason?

[Evil_Economist]

@Clothahump

Emphasis mine.

You can’t even get the emphasis right. You are a complete failure.

Here, let me help. Here’s the emphasis on the correct words, you simpleton:

Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

Now note the word intentionally that I highlighted. If you could read with comprehension, you would have read the following, also in the statement:

we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information

Finally, some advice for you: try not to be any more stupid than you can help.

[Czarcasm]

@Evil_Economist

Finally, some advice for you: try not to be any more stupid than you can help.

Of course, if you can’t help, we’ll try to understand.

[mhendo]

@Clothahump

Emphasis mine.

110 felonies committed, because each one would be a separate offense.

Thank you for clarifying…

…what a fucking dishonest moron you are.

I didn’t realize that it was possible to combine such eye-popping mendacity and sheer bag-of-hammers stupidity in a single worthless carcass, but you’ve managed to do it. Congratulations!

[iiandyiiii]

@Clothahump

Emphasis mine.

110 felonies committed, because each one would be a separate offense.

Hillary did not commit felonies according to your links, and according to the text you quoted. Did you miss the “intentional” and “grossly negligent” parts?

[Czarcasm]

@iiandyiiii

Hillary did not commit felonies according to your links, and according to the text you quoted. Did you miss the “intentional” and “grossly negligent” parts?

Miss those parts? I’d say he totally embraced those parts.

[Steophan]

@Clothahump

Might I ask why? Is it simply because she The Ghodess Hillary or is there some other reason?

Because some random person on the internet making an uncited appeal to authority is not even evidence for anything, let alone the proof required to claim someone is criminally guilty. Apart from that, you’re wrong about what the FBI guy actually said, he said there was insufficient evidence to charge her with any crime. You can look it up, or ignore another random internet idiot as you please.

It has nothing to do with who she is. I’m not American, so it’s not directly my business, but I consider her to be the second-worst candidate from a major party for president in my memory. Unfortunately for, well, the entire world really, she’s up against by far the worst ever candidate. He’s also not a criminal, despite all the claims, just another opportunistic liar.

[dasmoocher]

Interesting video:

Why Police Are So Violent Toward Black Men: In the words of a Baltimore ex–cop.

This past year has seen an enormous amount of attention paid to the toxic divide between police departments and the poor, black communities they serve. One thing we’ve learned is that tribal loyalty often prevents police officers from criticizing each other or their departments publicly—and at least sometimes, they lie when one of their own faces charges of misconduct. That’s why the recent emergence of Michael Wood Jr., a retired Baltimore cop, as a critic of law enforcement culture landed with impact: His voice was the relatively rare one that spoke with the knowledge of an insider but the unforgiving skepticism of an outsider.

In this video, you’ll meet Wood while he drives the streets of the city where he served as a police officer for 11 years, and hear him lay out his conception of what’s going wrong in the world of policing and how it could be made right.

[Typo_Negative]

@septimus

The case of Gynnya McMillen is back in the news. Her death a few months ago in the care of Kentucky juvenile detention was not reported in this thread.

News stories often do not mention people’s races. The late Ms. McMillen was African-American.

Villains do not see themselves as villains. The entire staff should be fired. Most should be incarcerated as the vicious criminals they are.

[eschereal]

@Clothahump

Emphasis mine.
…

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.

110 felonies committed, because each one would be a separate offense.

What do you think “e-mail chain” means?

[Leaper]

An article from the summer I ran across from a surprising source, musing on the controversy of late.

TL;DR: minorities distrust cops because bad actors get away with it. And they generally get away with it because too many citizens don’t give a damn what cops do to “those other people.”