Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

WV cop fired for not shooting after trying to talk down an armed black man who appeared to be going for suicide by cop.

To the cops, it’s “us or them”, and “if you ain’t with us, you must be against us”. To them, firing this guy makes perfect sense because they can’t trust him to choose the side of the cops over the side of the public.

The fucked up thing is that the cops think these two sides exist and continue to act as if they should exist.

Did we do this one yet? I don’t think we did…[

](http://www.vice.com/read/baltimore-police-secret-street-surveillance-plane-vgtrn)I found this story thru VICE and they condense some information well so:[

](http://www.vice.com/read/psurveillance-baltimore-police-cops-reform)
It’s true that it is perfectly legal to record people while they are out in public but this seems excessive to me. I don’t doubt that this kind of thing will become commonplace or even normal (we are already tracked and trackable in so many ways it’s ridiculous), but it still seems like an excessive and egregious use of information technology to me.

I guess I would like to know how its being used. Ideally I would like the tapes to be viewed only after obtaining a warrant from a judge and only for a specific entity and infraction. So if you are following a kidnappers car on tape and they happen to pass by someone selling drugs you couldn’t use that information as probable cause to search that guys car.

UNC Student raped. UNC Cops laugh about it with suspect (football player)

UNC’s Finest!
:mad:

13-year old shot while wielding a BB-gun.

Unlike many other cases here, though, this looks to be police acting reasonably. When a fleeing suspect stops and turns with a weapon in hand, you are justified in firing even if the suspect was a kid.

That said, the real question I have is about the stop itself. Did the kid actually match the description of the robber? Or was the description, as is too often the case, one so vague and nonspecific that it gave cops the excuse to stop any black children they happened to see?

The player in question has apparently turned himself in, and has been charged with a misdemeanor. I’m guessing there is more to the story than what the woman’s lawyer says.

Regards,
Shodan

Source

We should probably hear the tape of the cops cozying up and laughing about the victim. Wonder when that will be released to the public.

If they were trying to put him at ease, get him to relax and get him to say something to hang himself, I guess that would possibly be standard MO for an interrogation. It will be interesting to read what questions they asked him.

“Can you get us tickets to a home game?”

Some potentially good news :[

](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/631a657961a3419c8519e4f2eed07143/court-officer-killed-man-less-second-after-command)
The video has not been released (and for some reason is under a court seal). Many people will wonder about the DA’s office finding the shooting justified; the lawyer who wrote the review said in explanation:

I don’t believe that she is being exactly truthful.

I hope that this case doesn’t end here. I hope the cop is prosecuted, found guilty and does time in prison. I’d hope to see the DA charged as well with being an accessory after the fact (for covering it up) as well. I hope for these things but I’m not all that hopeful.

[A Tulsa police officer shot an unarmed man in the middle of the street after tasering the unarmed man:

](http://www.wsj.com/articles/tulsa-police-shoot-kill-black-man-in-street-1474146770)

Unfortunately, there is no body cam footage, as Tulsa officers do not wear body cams. There may be dash cam footage, however.

[Mr. Crutcher’s sister has made some statements to the press:

](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_KILLING_BY_POLICE_TULSA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-17-19-29-24)
I’m really unsure how police could see a stalled vehicle and become fearful for their lives when the driver approached them or the vehicle. I’m actually really unsure how someone could exist in such a state that anything presented so far could evince fear in any way, to be honest.

I have no doubt at this point that these officer will be found to have acted appropriately and will not face charges, despite an innocent man being dead from their actions.

Civil asset forfeiture: the police take your money and stuff as evidence, and sometimes they just keep it. How much do they take?

“sorry, we can’t tell you”

Error 405 - Cash Not Found

Trial for the 2 officers who killed James Boyd begins.

James Boyd was a homeless man who was killed by Albuquerque police March 2014.

Strange. It’s my understanding that simply implementing a 120-second wait between searches will prevent any system from crashing.

This happened the week I moved to ABQ. From Wikipedia:

ABQ’s Finest, there.

More about Terrance Crutcher (the Tulsa man shot dead by police last week; see post #8705 above):[

](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a35a1a477563493e99200b6a7f0d946a/latest-relatives-view-tulsa-police-shooting-videos)I guess we’ll be able to see for ourselves in a few hours.

[

](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d579b4424f3a4494ae5c5b31b12e54b3/tulsa-police-release-dashcam-video-fatal-shooting)
So no gun… what the fuck caused these cops to be so fearful that they shot an unarmed man?