Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

Yes, because now, the claims that he was acting erratically as if he was “on something” seem really credible.

So do you actually have a cite or are you going to keep insisting that your cite is a 134 page thread? Why not just cite the internet?

You know how you asked me for cites when I said people were excusing rioting and looting? I supplied cites that you commenced to pick apart by saying that they could have been interpreted another way, I pointed out that you were ignoring the clear inferences to be made from their posts and we had a back and forth. I didn’t tell you to go chew your own food.

You know how you asked me for cites of people objecting to the tasering of Terence Crutcher? I supplied cites and you proceeded to knock a few of them off as referring to something else while acknowledging that some of the posters were actually objecting to the tasering, we were able to establish that some people in fact objected tot he tasering but not as many as I had first thought. I didn’t tell you to go chew your own food.

It is the process of citing that makes these debates productive. You made an outrageous claim about SA (regarding man on boy rape in an effort to undermine his opinions on cop shootings) and I asked for a cite and you cited a 134 page thread and when I asked for more specificity, you tell me to go chew my own food?

Hey everyone. Evil Economist thinks that rioting is ok but only if blacks do it, that the tasering of Terence Crutcher was unjustified because they should have let him get into his car and drive away, that all cops should be presumed to be murderers because one cop in South Carolina is a murderer. My cite is this thread. I won’t point out the post for you because I can’t be bothered to chew your food for you.

Wow, debating you is going to be easy going forward. After all, you have lied so many times in so many thread that you have no credibility left at all. Need a cite for your lying? See SDMB, its in there, I can’t be bothered to chew your food for you.

Do you see why your method of citing doesn’t work? It is starting to look more and more like you owe SA an apology.

New Orleans agrees to a $13+ million settlement for several Katrina police shooting deaths. Several of the cops had already plead guilty.

OK, this seems like a pretty reasonable argument, though I don’t particularly want to read through that monster thread again, either, I’ll take a shot at it at some point.

**SA **is probably the worst person who regularly posts to this board. No one owes him an apology for anything, except in the form of “I’m sorry, I hadn’t realized what a shitbag you were.”

SA is the worst because he’s the most outspoken critic of liberal think. He doesn’t however lie about what other posters have said. So hardly the worst in a real world sense.

Plus, he gallantly defends pedophiles with cardboard tube analogies. Brilliant!

You get heavily and harshly criticized, unlike other Doper conservatives like Shodan and Bricker, because you routinely defend the indefensible and seem constitutionally unable to ever criticize bad actors and bad people you see as on your own side, politically.

For the record, I’m not a liberal, I’m a rational anarchist. So please believe me when I say it has nothing to do with your politics when I call you a failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.

No, it’s that I’m a much more prolific and outspoken critic of liberals and the way they think than the guys you mention. And I wouldn’t be anyone for not criticizing their own guys if I were you. Note the thread on the Newsweek writer who lied about Trump being hospitalized for mental issues. No recrimination there. At all. Instead it immediately became all about his Twitter victimhood. Because guess why? It shifts the focus to how bad a Trump supporter is instead.

And now I’m afraid you’ll have to excuse me for the better part of the next few days. I’m out of town, in areas of spotty coverage and limited to my phone so won’t be around much. Sorry. :wink:

Got it. It has nothing to do with a reflexive (and pointless) defense of a guy like Paterno, who did virtually nothing to stop child abuse that he was aware was likely occurring, and of someone who tried to trigger epilepsy in a journalist you don’t like… it’s always the liberals’ fault, liberals’ mistakes, liberals’ evil. Conservatives can do no wrong in your eyes, especially if it’s a conservative vs a liberal.

No, you’re wonderful and perfect and Doper liberals are dishonest and/or stupid.

If I’m wrong, then prove it – show me when you’ve said a liberal is right and a conservative is wrong in any particular disagreement. If you’d like to see how it’s done on this end, here’s an example when Bricker was (falsely, IMO) accused of racism for his stance on voter ID requirements:

Oh, before I go, there’s no such thing as a rational anarchist. :smiley:

Given that you guys are worse than liberals I’m not surprised by your disdain.

I’m sure you’ll bring along a cardboard tube for entertainment, then.

Bolding mine. Do you mean this thread? No, you can’t possibly, because that thread didn’t “become” a thread about his assault on Twitter, immediately or otherwise, it started as about his assault on Twitter. And despite your efforts to redirect to the thing about Trump being hospitalized, and imply he deserves it, that was the subject of the OP. Now, if you mean some other thread, clearly I missed that one. But if you mean THAT thread, your statement is dishonest. It wasn’t “shifted” to focus on how bad Trump supporters are, that was the original focus.

Yeah, you’re right about the thread, I misremembered the chronology. Meh. The point stands. He lied, refused to admit it, and drew not a word of rebuke or criticism fram anyone, let alone those who’d accuse me of not criticizing my own.

From a low-life kiddy-diddler defender like you, I wear your insult about being worse than liberals as a badge of honor.

Ain’t nobody ever been able back that bullshit up. You care to take a shot or sit there holding an empty sack like everyone else?

Funny how the election has so many SA baiters coming out of the woodwork though.

Here’s what Eichenwald had to say:

I obtained Trump medical records in 1980s. Showed he was on amphetamine-derivatives 4 years. Execs at his co told me was a problem. By 1990, Trump was in terrible shape.

…A company exec in 1990 told me Trump had a breakdown from drugs and required hospitalization. I didnt bother to try and confirm because Trump was a private citizen and I did not think it was important.

As the campaign began, Trump showed behaviors described in 1980s as related to drug: impulsiveness, delusions of grandeur (i know more than generals, i know tax code better than anyone) lack of sleep, etc. His 2016 medical letter did not mention the conditions listed in his 1980s medical records. I called the person who told me about the supposed 1990 episode and he repeated his claim. He also told me that there was another person who knew something about it.

So, long story short, Eichenwald had 2 sources telling him that Trump had been hospitalized for a breakdown.

Now personally I think he was wrong. I think Trump shows clear symptoms of NPD, and based on my experiences no one with NPD would ever seek help without being forced into it.

Now Eichenwald’s twitter postings probably don’t clear the high bar for journalistic integrity shown by reporters such as Tucker Carlson, who claimed that Hillary had secret illnesses she was hiding from the press. One could only wish Eichenwald was as cautious with his Twitter account as President Pussygrabber is.

I’m sure you attacked Carlson for his lies. Or President Pussygrabber for the stupid shit he says on Twitter. No, wait, you’re a hypocrite. Of course you didn’t.

Once again, you show you don’t know anything.

What do Tucker Carlson, and @realdonaldtrump have in common, that is different than Eichenwald?

Well, they’re republicans. Real patriots. Salt of the earth type 'o people.

Eichenwald is a elitist lefty arugula enemizer.

Now that’s cleared up, I am sure that SA’s argument holds more water for you.

Can somebody translate than into english?