It was wrong when it was done to them, and it’s wrong when it’s done to other people, whether I agree with them or not.
Did you actually read the article you cited?
It is NOT reconsidering it’s stance on free speech for everybody. It is, however, saying
so that’s one less thing you have to hide behind
mc
Yes, I did.
And who is it that they are pulling their support for, for carrying guns to rallies? I never said that it was reconsidering its stance on free speech, I said it was reconsidering its stance on nazis, given the methods of their “speech”.
Steophan was trying to say that everything the nazis did at the rallies was a-okay, because the ACLU defended them, and said he is as much a sympathizer as they are.
I was pointing out that they are less sympathetic to their methods than he is.
Eh? I wasn’t hiding behind or from anything, what you going on about?
Now, there have been several threads about the mix of the first and second amendments, and whether guns should be allowed at such events. It was mainly those on the left who said that they should not be, not only because they could be used in a tense situation, but because they have been used by the nazis during the protests. I can not be bothered to remember if you were in those threads, nor what position you took in them, so if you have some exception to those bleeding over here, you will have to catch me up.
I am not sure what type of point you are trying to make here, but whatever it is, you have failed spectacularly.
k9
Rohm? Is that you Rohm?
Gays Against Semitism (GAS)? Aryan Resistance Corps (ARC)? Anyone conflicited enough to be a nazi can not be trusted to make sound decisions concerning themselves.
They are some of the more befuddling non sequiturs I’ve seen.
If you are still trying to call me a nazi, you should probably try reading my posts, even just the ones in this thread. Strong support for free speech, strong support for the right to be judged in court, not summarily, and strong support for gay rights. Not so much in this thread, but also a general support for capitalism. All the opposite of nazi values.
Look at the rap sheet of this d-bag cop. He finally kid a kid. He must be really proud of himself. Too bad he wasn’t let go after his department settled his previous excessive force law suits.
That is fucked up. I guess the white supremacist racist view point of officers still don’t matter though.
Administrative duty. The ultimate punishment. That will make cops think twice.
I could take it as a joke.
If it were not for the fact that making a joke about that in that situation is actually worse than being serious about it.
The pattern in MOST of these cases is, the bad cop already had a history - a documented history. All the red flags were there. THAT is the problem.
These are not good cops on one bad day, these are BAD COPS. Repeat offenders. And yet they wear a badge and are allowed to continue on.
I can’t get the video to play. But unless this cop has other allegations on his record, I am gonna go with gallows humor ‘bad joke’. Issue an apology, receive reprimand, be done with it, move on to more important stuff.
That’s my take too. I am far from a cop apologist when it comes to controversial encounters with civilians, but cops *are *allowed to have shit senses of humor.
If you guys told a nervous customer at your offices that you only cheat black people - would you expect to hold on to your jobs? What if it became a national headline?
If you tell your boss - it’s just a joke, would that help, do you suppose?
Not about killing people.
I don’t know that she needs to lose her job over this, but she, and other police need to know that this sort of “humor” is unacceptable.
This is an unacceptable “joke” if it is a joke. A doctor that joked about only killing black patients would be fired. A lawyer that joked about only letting black defendants go to jail would be disbarred. This is inappropriate racist comments. The lady is already scared and to say something like that is totally wrong.
Police officers are not that much in limited supply that we have to weep over a socially tone-deaf fool losing his job.
Black people don’t always look like black people. For all this cop knew, he was actually sharing this “joke” to a black person. If the woman had bolted from the car in response, would she have been justified?
No, cops shouldn’t be allowed to have shitty senses of humor while they are executing their duties. They are constantly drilling into the public’s collective head how fearful and apprehensive they are whenever they engage motorists. They’d like us to believe they deal with psycho killers on an hourly basis and that only psycho killers distrust police officers. OK. But if police officers expect unfailing compliance and unconditional reverence, they can’t play the fool, at least not over stuff like this. If you can justifiably kill me just because I make a quick move or don’t move quickly enough, you shouldn’t be allowed to jerk my chain or troll me. If I have to turn off my emotions for you to not be deathly afraid of me, you should have to do likewise, for my sake.
I’m glad to hear that he’s been fired.
I’ve not called you a Nazi. So I’ll give you a chance here. You didn’t disavow the actual claim, which was calling you antisemitic.
Capitalism is not remotely important to modern Nazism. And freedom of speech is something modern Nazis support. And, as pointed out, there are Nazis who are pro-gay, so that doesn’t count, either.
Nazism is primarily about white supremacy and antisemitism these days. Because those were the big things that actually led to the Holocaust.
He retired before they could fire him, the fucking coward.