From the article cited:
The controversy is that the cops will refuse to recognize any mistakes on their part. The cops failed. They failed to keep themselves safe, they failed to keep the suspect safe, and they failed to keep the victim safe. But all they, and you, have to say about it is
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Not making no-knock night raids to bust someone for selling weed would make the cops safer. If she had had a real gun, then there would be two dead cops along with her.
They are fortunate that the person that they killed posed no threat to them whatsoever. They put themselves into a position where, had there been an actual threat, they would have been putting themselves into mortal danger.
Fortunately for the cops, the person that they killed posed them no threat, so the only person who was killed was someone who was attempting to protect her home from armed intruders.
No one said it was controversial to enforce the law; that’s a strawman.
Wait… they did? Cite? The article linked says nothing about a search warrant.
The article actually does mention a warrant, and there is a link in the first or second paragraph that mentions a warrant.
And the linked article shows a picture of the guy they arrested. He was a Negro, so they had to do it at night, because those people are nocturnal.
Now, if we can stop engaging the troll, this thread will be much easier to follow.
So a warrant, and they knocked.
Unless the cops were lying, or the artcle is lying, or some other conspiracy theory like the usual ones here to claim that cops are going out fo their way to kill black people.
And if it wasn’t a situation where a warrant was, well, warranted, the judge wouldn’t have issued it, dipshit.
The only thing that put the cops’ lives at risk was the old woman shooting at them, and you are defending her. You are literally defending shooting cops because you disagree with drug laws. That’s fucking insane.
You are, however, right about the prohibition of weed being a huge waste of resources, and convicting people for using it a huge waste of lives. I don’t accept that it’s the job of the police to choose which laws to enforce, though - that could very easily lead to an exacerbation of the problems being discussed in this thread. Cops could legitimately claim they don’t have to investigate other cops, or that they could ignore crime in certain areas. Whilst it’s obviously impossible to investigate every single report or potential crime fully, it should not be the job of ordinary cops to decide what the priorities are, it should be a political decision.
Maybe request your fellow posters not to solicit my opinion if you don’t want me to post in this thread.
But the police do decide what laws to enforce, when, and upon whom, you fucking moron. That is what this whole thread is about, and why many of us perceive you as a dipshit asshole.
Seriously, even the police will tell you that’s part of their job.
Ah, okay; not sure how I missed that when reading the article. I saw “warrant” but not “search warrant”.
Well that’s just dumb as hell.
Words don’t mean much anymore. TOO often, any videos that turn up show the words to be a deliberate lie, and what we see only scratches the surface.
Tennessee sheriff caught on tape saying ‘I love this shit’ after ordering suspect’s killing.
Mel Brooks has this covered:
Precisely. There was a great scene in The Wirethat sort of addressed this notion without addressing it directly. Here’s how I make sense of it : the city passed a well-meaning (or at least somewhat justified) ordinance against public drunkeness ; but the law itself is retarded and goes at the problem in a wrong way, or at least the side effects of the law as written would cause a lot more social upheaval than the streets drunks ever would. So the “reasonable drunks” circumvent the letter of the law via a stupid loophole, and the cops let them because that in turn on one hand lets them focus their resources on crimes that actually matter and affect people while at the same time keeping the “public alcohol” ordinance in their toolkit to deal with the actual disruptive drunks who may or may not have plagued the city at the time that ordinance was drafted.
And that’s a determination every fucking cop makes every fucking minute of every blessed day, really ; on the simple basis that their body can only be in one place at one time. So do you go after the speedster, or the guy who tossed his cigarette stub onto the sidewalk, or the jaywalker, or the guy who’s being a serial nigger ?
OK, so that last one was ha-ha-only-serious-only-hopefully-ha-ha. But the point is : every individual cop does decide which laws get enforced and which don’t at any given time. Sometimes they choose based on pondered assesments, sometimes they decide because it’s too close to donut break to be bothered. And that’s physically unavoidable, Steophan.
And it CAN’T be a political decision, because laws and lawmakers are good enough (though most of them are retardedly written and morons respectively) but none can be granular enough to account for the context and circumstances of even common everyday occurrences. And that’s with modern law codes already being overly stuffy.
That’s why there’s judges rather than Justice Algorithms, too.
So the cops should have refused to execute the warrant, because you think the laws are stupid?
Can you see any drawbacks to that approach?
Regards,
Shodan
Did I comment on the specifics of the case ? Shit, I missed that, I really should quit drinking…
No, I was merely commenting on Steophan’s post which is a self-contradiction, really.
This is one of the most egregious and awful things posted in this thread, and the ddamned thread is devoted to cataloging egregious and awful acts.
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If cops start refusing to execute no-knock warrants to bust small time weed dealers, then they will eventually stop issuing them.
Keep in mind, this isn’t just about public safety, this is about what really matters to you, cop safety. Not only will this reduce the number of homeowners that end up getting caught up and killed in raids on their houses, it will reduce the number of times that cops are put into a dangerous position.
I know that you don’t give a shit about public safety, but won’t you at least think about the police officers that don’t get to make it back home because they got killed over trying to bust some teenager for selling a dimebag to a friend?
Only drawback I see to that is that there is a little less traffic in this thread, a sacrifice I am willing to make.