Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

Some of the wrongdoing by the police is not actually illegal. And some of it falls into untested grey areas. We may be giving them more latitude in some ways than is appropriate for the job.

I could, but I certainly don’t want to look up where you pulled it out of.

Timely response you dumb fuck, given today’s verdict of not guilty for the piece of shit cowardly officer who instead of disarming a 66 year old grandma having an episode wielding a bat OR using his taser, decides to murder her instead.

Fuck that piece of shit judge too.

Has he been hired back? That always happens next.

Regards,
Shodan

I know how much you want murderers to be on the police force, but can you keep your fantasies to yourself for once?

Broward County Sheriff: Twenty 911 calls about school-shooter Cruz received in the past few years.

-The Hill

It’s HIS Sheriff Department that never acted, but he wants the FBI director to resign. Hmmmm. Why didn’t HIS people never do anything?

Police visited the house 39 times (including, I imagine, the twenty 911 calls) over a seven year period. But yeah, let’s blame the FBI.

And how much howling would there have been if this young MAGA-bro had both his first and second amendment rights trampled upon? There is no law against crazy fuckers owning AR-15s in Florida so what was reporting him supposed to accomplish? To “keep and eye on him”? You’re going to have to hire a few more FBI agents if you’re going to stake out every armed angry redneck in Florida.

If only there were a common denominator.

This just popped up on the AP news feed and isn’t really controversial, IMO; this is just good, solid police work and an example for other officers to follow.

From East Lansdowne, PA:

Video at the link, eh. :smiley:

Toronto, Canada today:

I hope it is, Mr. Green; I hope it is.

ETA: Miss McBride’s Facebook page with the videos; only one is at the VICE link.

https://usat.ly/2oqMZ4R

What a fucking pussy. This guy should be stoned. Fucking do your job and save some kids.

On top of being chicken, didn’t he even bother to tell the cops that they were watching video that was on a 20 minute delay?

Did you hear the one about the cop who was too afraid to intervene in a school massacre?

ETA: I see UCBearcats has.

A well paid pussy, at that.

Say what you will about this guy’s intestinal fortitude, and I won’t argue with you too hard, but I think this goes to show what a ridiculous idea it is to pay some retiree 80 grand a year to guard your school when it’s obvious that he couldn’t have done shit, probably even if he would have gone inside the building. The odds are that if he would have gone inside there just would have been one more body - his. What the fuck is one 54 year old guy with a handgun going to do against a rampaging teen with an AR-15? The whole notion of one security guard solving all the problems of a potential school shooting is more akin to a feel-good measure in face of this kind of fire-power.

Even trained people in chaotic scene tend to shoot just anyone who suddenly appears around the corner, especially if that person screams. May that be a killer or panicked student.
If that cop would’ve gone inside there’s no saying how many students he would’ve shot.

I won’t argue that you’re wrong (hence, this thread). But perhaps that’s a reason to have better training for cops and “resource officers” alike. Don’t shoot unarmed people, or armed people who aren’t an immediate threat.

It should be fairly easy to identify the one person in a school who is armed with a rifle.

How do you know it’s a rifle? How do you know there’s just one person?

Good points. I guess you wouldn’t at the time. But you would still be looking for someone who is armed, following the sounds.

And, yes, to anticipate your next objection, the shooter could ditch the gun and blend in with the other students, which is just what this shooter did, I guess. Not an easy situation, for sure, which is all the more reason to allow teachers to be armed. They are right there as it’s happening.