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Let’s keep the discussion focused on things he’s said on this board, please.
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That’s pretty much the opposite of what I said. I’m going to judge whether you are being racist based on what you say. Racism is not something that most people admit to, so if you say racist things, then I’m going to use my brain and I’m definitely not going to take your word for it.
And good job with those scare quotes around “code” as if that’s some kind of outlandish notion.
It’s foolish to be “as concerned.” On a personal level, I am not going to associate with people who show any kind of bigotry.
On a societal level, I’m not going to get excited about anti-white racism in my country, because as a practical matter, it really doesn’t matter. Maybe someday it will, but as of today, people complaining about anti-white racism not getting enough attention are really just try to distract people from real problems.
It is a ridiculous notion, and that’s the point. Racism is discriminating against someone, and that’s not something you can do in code, it’s an action you have to take towards them, or encourage others to do.
There’s a difference between using your brain, and deciding that someone who’s not actually saying or doing anything racist must, nevertheless, be racist because you’ve interpreted it that way.
You won’t be associating with a great many people then. Most people have some prejudices, whether conscious or unconscious.
No, that’s not the only thing it is.
That’s just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Of course you can do it in code. In fact, doing it in code is the most effective way to do it.
This sentence makes no sense. If I’ve interpreted it as racist, then he or she has said or done something racist, regardless of whether he says “I’m gonna do this racist thing now.”
Oh, and that was kinda my point - but if a particular individual has suffered from it, it’s a real problem to them. But it needs to be treated as an individual problem, not a major societal issue.
Or, you know, you’re wrong, and full of shit. Which is at least as likely as anything else. Discrimination is an action, not an abstract concept. You said you don’t care what’s in someone’s secret heart, so you shouldn’t care if someone has thoughts of being racist but doesn’t act on them.
Of course, you do, because you do actually care what people think, not what they do, because you’ve decided already that only your interpretations are valid, and that you can know what someone thinks even if it’s the opposite of the way the act or speak.
That’s why this “code” thing is bollocks. Because even if someone says or does nothing racist, if they don’t use the particular jargon you’ve deemed acceptable, they are racist - and hence you won’t associate with them. Not that I imagine that’s much of a punishment.
If they have said something that I have interpreted as racist, then they have done something racist. That’s the way reality works. You don’t wait for someone to admit to being racist, because only crazy people do that.
You’re treating “interpretation” as if it’s something outlandish and unfair. Everything anyone says has to be interpreted in order to be understood. That’s how human communication works.
The problem is that you are not the sole arbiter of what is or isn’t racist, and your interpretation isn’t gospel. You could be misunderstanding (intentionally or otherwise), for one thing. But if your view is that if anyone says anything that could possibly be construed as racist, then they are obviously and completely racist, then you’re as much of an idiot as Dibble, who sees more racists than a John Bircher saw commies.
Steophan, it looks bad that you won’t take Dibble at his word that he’s no racist, but you require that your word be taken that you aren’t a racist. Shoot, it’s almost like you are lacking self-awareness on this issue.
Then you misunderstand what I’m doing. I’m applying his standard to him, and he doesn’t like it. It’s not me that needs some self-awareness.
Forgot which board we’re on, did we?
And a Pit thread where I’m clearly poking at your racist ass with a stick is a wonderfully cite :rolleyes:
Liar.
No, it’s defending racists by stalking me and leaping out every time I call them on it (but never calling them on their racist shit even though you admit you read it) that makes you a racist.
And you wish your racist-lite ass was like Hitler - you’re more like a Sonderkommando. A useful idiot to the other racists on this board, all the while convinced of your own martyrdom.
And a liar.
I don’t particularly care for the fact that you have to lie about me to do it, but I expect most people here will consider the source and dismiss your view of who is and isn’t a racist, the same way they dismiss your views of who is or isn’t a “thug” deserving of summary execution by crazy people.
Whereas anyone can check your posts and see how you stalk me, to leap out whenever I call out people who everyone (except their fellow-travellers like yourself) knows are the racists on this board, whether that be CP or magellan01 or Shodan or whomever.
That you feel motivated to do that, prompted by your delusions of my non-existent racism, but never once actually move your lying ass to confront Chief or mags in a real racism thread, tell me that I’ve applied my standard of judging who is and isn’t a racist just perfectly in your case.
It also helps that you’ve shown yourself to be an outright liar…
Listen, dickhead, I don’t stalk you, you just turn up all the fucking time talking nonsense. The idea that I feel “martyred” is ridiculous, your nowhere near important enough to make me feel that way.
And if I see some actual racism here, if I see, for example, anyone saying you shouldn’t post here because you’re black, or that your posts are worthless for that reason I’ll call them out on it. In fact, link me to the racism you’ve seen, to where you or anyone else has been attacked for your race, and I’ll call them out right now.
Because I’m not going to use your retarded standard for anybody else, because they’ve done nothing to deserve that.
But please, point me to the threads where any of the people you’ve named have racially abused you, or otherwise acted in a racist manner.
Of the people you mention, Shodan is clearly not a racist, and it’s only your paranoia that could possibly make you think he is. Chief Pedant is clearly wrong, but is attempting to discuss ideas, nothing else, and there’s no problem with that. Magellan01 quite possibly is racist, but more likely just likes winding lefties up.
You need to accept that not being insanely politically correct in every situation doesn’t make someone racist. What makes them racist is acting in a discriminatory fashion to someone because of race (or ethnicity, nationality or culture, the way the word is often used). Not discussing why more young black people fail at school or commit crimes. We need more discussion of those issues, not less, and we don’t need liberal arseholes shutting down that discussion with false, paranoid cries of “RACISM!!” all the fucking time.
Sure you don’t…
…in threads you hadn’t even posted to before I mentioned racists, sometimes.
Just important enough to stalk - in more than one forum, even.
And to make you lose your grammar
you’d have to break your mirror, we get it.
Liar.
HA, Ha ha ! Tell me another one, funny clown man.
So you and reality, you’re not on the best of terms, are you?
Chief Pedant is a racist who thinks an entire continent of human beings is functionally retarded, and uses pseudoscience funded by honest-to-gods literal Nazis to “prove” it. He’s as racist as your sheet is white, you stupid man.
Liar.
Well, you didn’t get that from any thread on this board, as he’s posted nothing of the sort. Although it’s quite possible you bring the average down so far that he’d be correct if he did.
And as for the stalking bullshit, you’re the one that followed me to another board to have another argument. Sadly for you, even the people there who agree with you think you’re a cunt (citation provided earlier).
He cites Lynn and Rushton, and their numbers are that low (e.g. saying South Africans have an average IQ around 72). So yes, that’s what he says.
I get that you’re incapable of actually reading anything substantive. But believe me, some of us do, actually, follow up on exactly who the racists on this board choose to cite. And where they get their funding from.
But by all means, please continue defending CP as hard as you possibly can. This does your I’m-Not-A-Racist cred sooo much good.
Liar.