At the risk of being accused of fully supporting this atrocity because I disagree with one small little point, I don’t think that Sheriff’s deputy separated that woman and her child at the border.
That kid could have doubled back, grabbed the guns out of the car and shot the police. Police don’t get paid to take any chances.
It’s the pit. The line doesn’t exist here.
In any case, did the administration make this policy in order to fuck children? Nah.
Did the administration make this policy with full knowledge that it would expose children to circumstances that are perfect for a child predator? Yes they did.
Did they care? Not in the slightest. That the children may be sexually abused is just part of the deterrence.
Yes, they do. That’s the job.
:smack:
And I could get a gun (from pretty much anywhere) and randomly shoot guys on the street for no reason. Cops better gun me down now. Can’t take any chances.
You think that. I think that. But some think that cops are under no obligation to put themselves at risk. Rather than risk injury, they should immediately shoot anyone that makes them feel a little scared.
What line??
The line that needs to be crossed before accusing people of doing things because they want to fuck children. As I said, that’s simply my opinion.
Any cop that believes that shouldn’t be a cop.
Exactly.
If they are that scared or that cowardly, they need to find another line of work.
That’s nice, that’s very nice.
They are doing some really horrible shit, supposedly doing it in our name, and you’re worried about their feelings.
Well bless your heart.
Whatever, man. You be you.
How was he going to double back to get the guns with the cop standing right there. Face it, the cop didn’t want to let a suspect get away so he shot him in the back without warning. The cop appointed himself judge, jury and executioner, without any proof of wrongdoing other than fleeing the scene. This is not the way cops should behave and you don’t need to kneejerk defend them. Acknowledging that one cop did a bad thing and should be held accountable is not going to destroy the fabric of our justice system.
Most/all of us agree that on any given day cops do more good things than they do bad thing, and I think that most/all of us agree that we can’t expect 0 incidents. What we object to is how these incidents are handled. It would be one thing if when such an incident occurred the reaction of the department was to publicly distance themselves from the event indicating that that is not who they are, and find out what led to the tragedy, and prevent it from happening in the future so as to heal any broken ties with the community. Instead what we get is responses like Mason. A rallying around the officer and excuse all of his actions. No desire to change policies, and a demonetization of those in the community who complain. Further expanding the rift between the community and the police.
It seems that some police have seemed to adopt a military view of policing, in which there is a war between the police and the bad guys, with civilians sometimes getting in the crossfire. So that in their minds the ordering of outcomes from worst to best becomes
Dead police << escaped criminal << dead cilvilian << captured criminal << dead criminal.
When in my opinion it should (except in extreme cases) be
Dead civilian << dead police << dead criminal << escaped criminal << captured criminal.
I think it was a woosh-see post #14034.
I just don’t buy into the “civility” line. I don’t buy into “keep taking the high road when it obviously doesn’t work”. I don’t blieve in “keep turning the other cheek every time”.
No.
This debate about politeness and civility is stupid. It’s also dangerously beside the point.
This debate is just another deflection, another exercise in bullshit.
Tying it to the most recent example …
“It’s hard to have lectures on civility from the Trump administration,” Center for American Process President Neera Tanden told host Jake Tapper on his Sunday morning program, adding that President Donald Trump built his own platform on demeaning minorities.
“He started his campaign calling Mexicans rapists. He yesterday is attacking Democrats. Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ father is tweeting attacks,” Tanden said, referring to an image tweeted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee Saturday of what looks to be MS-13, captioned with “Nancy Pelosi introduces her campaign committee for the take back of the House.”
I’m not debating anything. It’s simply my opinion. I don’t expect you to agree or disagree with it. I don’t actually care which you do.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Also, it’s Manson 
Fair enough
That there are those involved in the implementation of these policies that want to sexually abuse children for their own pleasures or to profit off the pleasures of others is not something that I find to be a stretch at all, given that this is something that happens when you have people in power over marginalized populations, it pretty much is a given that it will happen. That the administration did this because trump himself wants to sexually abuse these kids, I dunno. That the administration did this with the full knowledge that there would be children subject to sexual exploitation, and that they were not only okay with this, but also saw it as a further deterrence, I also do not find to be in question.
Now, was the only reason that they did this to make children available for sexual exploitation? I do not believe that to be the case. They did it for many reasons that are all short sighted and petty. But, that the result of it is that there will be children who we either never see again, or we recover from a child sex slave ring is something that people in the administration knew fully well when they decided to implement these policies. Many in the administration get pleasure out of the suffering of others, I do not put it past them to get pleasure out of the knowledge that their actions result in the torture, rape, and ultimately gruesome death of children.
So, yeah, they do want to fuck them, they will likely though, just profit off of someone else doing it, while they pleasure themselves at the thought of the not only the money that they make, but the misery that they inflict.
Simply my opinion.