Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

Woman struggles with police after taking a US Flag from protesters; she said she was rescuing it from abuse, as the protesters had been walking all over it.

The woman was white, the protesters were black, there was no arrest.

Actually the woman was arrested, she resisted arrest, and no charges were filed.

Measure for Measure. Nothing changes. There are Bills going through right now (and there have been other recent Bills) aimed at allowing the police to deal with the Islamic Terrorist threat.

The UK police either had, have or are moving towards having quite draconian powers. If the police suspect (or simply say they suspect) an individual is involved in terrorism then without needing to provide much in the way of justification they can stop and search the person, their home, their phone records… Suspects can be detained for weeks without charge, stopped from leaving the UK or stopped from entering the UK. They can be sequestered away hundreds of miles from their normal home or put under house arrest without being found guilty of anything.

After each terrorist outrage (such as an off duty soldier killed and attempts made to behead his body, in the middle of London, in the middle of the day) these powers gain quite some popular support. But during lulls in terrorist outrages concerns are raised about the UK becoming a police state.

Particularly because when there is some formal court proceeding (whether it is to justify a continuing detention or an actual trial on a specific charge) the trials are often held in secret and even inside the court virtually all details (names and such like) are kept secret. To protect identities and the safety of individuals, to protect on-going investigations and maintain secrecy regarding investigative techniques.

Inevitably, since the most direct terrorist threat is perceived as Islamic and, further, since the majority of UK muslims are perceived as being of either of Middle Eastern or African ethnicity these police powers are used most commonly against non-whites leaving the door open to charges of racism and general Islamiphobia.

Then there are the worries that, Pandora’s Box-like, if the police are given these powers they will use them more and more widely sticking “anti-terrorist” on as an excuse. Hence “Police State” concerns.

Meanwhile - Part 1. The anti-terror powers I refer to include the ability to stop people leaving the UK. But applying these powers is seen as racist against people of Middle Eastern ethnicity.

Meanwhile - Part 2. There are UK Nationals who are choosing to leave the UK to join the Islamic State to support the cause. Recently three young girls of Central Asian ethnicity (15, 15 and 16 years old) left the UK to become “Jihadi brides” to any random IS fighters who wanted them and there has been some condemnation the police didn’t do MORE to stop them leaving.

TCMF-2L

Parma, Missouri is a town of about 700, located in the southeastern corner of the state. On April 14, a black woman named Tyrus Byrd won election as mayor. Shortly thereafter, five of the town’s six cops abruptly resigned, citing “safety concerns”. The city’s attorney, the clerk, and the waste water treatment plant supervisor also resigned.

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/2015/04/19/police-resign-new-mayor-parma-missouri/26036927/


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That’s pretty damning.

What does this mean?

Can someone retrieve that “cleared” information, I wonder? Even if these cops resigned for no nefarious reason, it is very troubling that government records can just disappear into the thin air. Especially police records.

Depends on what kind of records they were and how they were “cleared”. If they were a bunch of Word documents and things like that, and someone just hit the “Delete” key and emptied the trash, they could potentially be recovered. If they were records in some kind of database, and the records were deleted, it depends on what kind of DB it was, what kind of transaction logging was turned on, what kind of backups were in place, etc. A little town of 700 people, though, might lack the resources to hire forensic analysts to dig into it.

If all their records are electronic and not well administered (which would be likely in a small town) then there is a very good chance they could vanish without much of a trace.

No it isn’t. There was nothing there that anyone needs to see. Just take their word for it. That’s how it works.

Regards,
Shodan

But they’re not Hillary. #FantasyWorldDemocrats

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They are using “terms” to mean the period between being first sworn in and stepping down from office, not terms in the sense of election cycles. In other words, Ramsey held office for 37 years in sum, but there was an interval in the middle where he was not mayor.

Isn’t this what people want to happen? Minorities (who are actually majorities in the particular areas) getting positions of power, the presumably bad police leaving, and the new mayor being in a position to appoint better ones?

Yeah, good riddance, but it’d be nice if they didn’t destroy government files on their way out. I assume they deleted a whole bunch of racists emails.

ETA: It’s kind of like the Stasi burning their files while the Berlin wall fell. They realized that their time was up.

Another day, another black man down:

Black suspect dies after Baltimore cops break his spine in ‘brutal’ police arrest

So are police just plain not allowed to arrest anyone anymore unless they’re white?

Slight difference between arresting someone and breaking their spine, wouldn’t you say?

Nnnnnnno, the suggestion is, and always has been, that non-white suspects are treated much more brutally than white suspects under similar/identical circumstances. I think you knew that.

What part of broken spine, injured voice box and dead a day later do you not understand, you stupid fuck?

Oh, let me guess, you stopped reading at “Black man”, right?

Tampa Bay’s finest, meting out justice on an even keel:

Only CRIMINALS don’t carry around their bike receipts!

Since it’s been shown that they lied about the first part, what are the odds they lied about the second?