Jesus Mary and Joseph in heaven with all of the angels…
RIGHT NOW (12:07 pm CST), on the active threads page there are no less than SIX threads relating to One mr. Timothy McVeigh.
I understand that the death penalty is a touchy, much debated issue akin only to Abortion and PC vs Mac, but Sweet Thundering Christ…how many separate threads do we need about it? Surely three of these could have been consolidated into one big thread regarding the whole sordid issue and every sub issue contained therein.
Does anyone understand that this is exactly what that childkiller wanted?*
He was sick fuck. Now he’s a dead, sick fuck, and I’m real tired of him getting all the fame he desired. The end.
jarbaby
[sub]*yes, jarbaby understands that starting a thread complaining about the topic of other threads contributes to said threads, but she’s crabby today[/sub]
I’m with ya on that one. There is just too much going around about him. I’ve been rather delicate about the whole thing and haven’t gotten into any of those threads. I just dont know about the whole thing ya know?
[Simpsons quote]
Nobody who speaks German could be evil!
[/Simpsons quote]
[proof that drop is in a playful, but cranky, mood]
So, you’re one of McVeigh’s neo-nazi supporters, spouting German and all?
[/proof that drop is in a playful, but cranky, mood]
It’s not about McVeigh; he’s just the catalyst. It’s about the death penalty. The thread where I explained that, according to Christian theology, it was possible for McVeigh to be in heaven if he repented in time while his victims might be in hell if they had not been saved was a bit odd, me being the stone atheist and all.
This is why when Vinnie The Virginslayer was soliciting funny suggestions for new forums, I seriously suggested a “current events” forum. All the threads on Crap That Just Happened And Is All Over The Front Page Of The Paper Today could be in one place.
Methinks clearer thread titles would also help prevent unnecessary thread proliferation. For example, the “witch is dead” thread took me by surprise–I was sure it was some WOMAN who had kicked off. No idea it was a McVeigh thread, and had I been thinking of starting my own thread (believe me, I wasn’t), I wouldn’t have even opened it to see if it covered my ground already. Sorry to pick on someone’s specific thread, of course.
Goddamn it, I think that my wisdom tooth is coming in. The one that is growing sideways. Now THERE’S a topic of urgent importance to me and dare I say it to the world at large.
I suggested the same thing back in November, where there were about a million threads about the election going on at the same time in every forum on the board.
It was summarily dismissed, but I think it’s more worthy than having two separate “Comments on…” forums.
I’m in full agreement with Cranky. A Current Events type of forum would be excellent. Then I could summarily avoid all Current Events.
Now…about more important things: Cranky, get that tooth extracted! NOW! It could screw up your whole mouth if you don’t. It sort of happened to me.
[boring narrative on Sunshine’s teeth]
I had braces as a kid (12-14 yrs old) and part of the reason my teeth were so screwed up was that my mouth was too small to hold all the teeth. They put in a thingy called a “palate spreader” (read “torture device”) which was basically a spring connected to my upper molars that shoved the teeth in opposite directions in hopes that it would make room for all my teeth. It didn’t. Plus it was PAINFUL and caused major distress when it came time for my first French Kiss at the age of 14. (Do I warn the boy his tounge may get mangled on this evil spring in the roof of my mouth or do I not and take the chance that my first “real” kiss may or may not involve spurting blood?)
So then they pulled 4 of my “non-essential” permanent teeth (read “not the front ones and not the molars but the ones inbetween”) 2 on the bottom and 2 on the top. All was well.
Until I was 18 and the braces were gone and the teeth were perfect but the wisdom teeth finally decided to make an appearance, only sideways. And fast. The first one broke the skin very quickly and all my teeth started shifting around because of the too small mouth and all. My parents panicked over their investment and rushed me off to the dentist and eventually I had to have an oral surgeon extract them all (all the wisdom teeth, that is…) before the damage got any worse. Anyway, I now have a slightly screwed up mouth because of the stupid wisdom teeth coming in really fast (and sideways) and the torture device that didn’t work.
[/boring narrative on Sunshine’s teeth]
Well, I for one don’t think removing Cranky’s tooth will bring back all of those other wisdom teeth, And I doubt that removing it will effectively serve as a deterrant to any other wisdom teeth that might be tempted to grow in sideways.
On the other hand, if Cranky’s tooth is a danger to Cranky in particular or to society in general, then perhaps the extraction penalty is appropriate, and it needs to come out!
And I’m sick of hearing about McVeigh too. Give it a rest.
I’m also sick of talking about McVeigh. My university’s newspaper covered the story and students’ reactions. While I know it’s hard to get good man-in-the-street quotes, I sometimes suspect the reporters go out of their way to find the most idiotic quotes possible. While I can’t recall the quote verbatim, one guy was quoted as saying he didn’t like John Ashcroft calling McVeigh derogatory names and saying it was barbarism and stuff like that, because we’re all supposed to be equal and that isn’t.
I suppose he might have had some point about tainting the jury or public opinion, but give me a break. Killing 168 people definitely makes one unequal. And isn’t worrying about derogatory terms at this point a little beside the point?
I for one think this is the perfect opportunity to launch my latest crusade, the banning of the poem “Invictus” from being taught in America’s public schools. This is in no way associated with my prophetic post in another thread in which I predicted that some asinine fool would demand just this very thing, but it’s worth pointing out that you cannot argue that I am now proven right.
My arguments are these:
This poem was read upon the death by hanging by lethal injection apparatus of that guy who stabbed a bunch of people with a handgun in Japan.
W. E. Henley was a creepy guy. Apparently, he wrote tunes for television commercials, known as “jingles”, back in the 1800’s.
I was forced to memorize this poem in school, and I didn’t much like school, and I’m exactly like that guy who killed all those people. Except I don’t kill people. Banning “Invictus” can therefore only help make school a much better agora for the casual exchange of sexual diseases and phat nugs.
It is the tool of the devil. Sol Invictus was a pagan druid holiday which happened to fall on the 21st of December, an obvious slight to the shopping period just before Christmas. I cite Jack Chick.
Some translations of “Invictus” from the original English into American contain questionable language. I cite this example below:
OUT of the fucking night that covers my stupid ass,
Black as the fucking Pit from pole to fuckin’ pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my worthless unconquerable soul.
In the fucking fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the fucking bludgeonings of chance
My fucking head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this bullshit place of wrath and tears
Looms but the fucking Horror of the fucking shade,
And yet the fucking menace of the fucking years
Finds and shall find my stupid ass unafraid.
That piece of shit matters not how in the hell strait the fucking gate,
How in the hell charged with punishments the fucking scroll
I am the fucking master of my stupid fate:
I am the fucking captain of my bloody soul.
See? Let’s get rid of this poem and forget all that other stuff before it becomes the chant of gun-toting Japanese people everywere. We all know what those bastards did to Ben Affleck.
I have absolutely nothing to add save for the fact that I once had sex with a German national who kept screaming, “Oh mein Gott, bitte!!!” as I power-banged her all night long.
So, this complaint is basically the same as the one that floated around about election threads a while back? You get sick of an issue and so it shouldn’t be discussed? You have an opinion that for some reason the intelligent debate of an important subject somehow deifies Timothy McVeigh, and you don’t like that, so all the talk should be verboten?
Let me tell you what I’m sick of. I’m sick of people who go around after an event like this saying “Don’t do/say/think that! That would have been just what he wanted!”
So what? He’s dead, the bombing victims are dead, and that’s it for them. The militia movement will most likely have more impact on America in the future. It’s worth talking about.
And “too many threads”? Please. There are too many flirt threads. There used to be too many post parties. Too much serious discussion there is not.
Necros, give me a break, ok? I said there are too many REDUNDANT threads. I never said for others to stop discussing it, or at least, that’s not what I meant. The point is, I’ve looked at four of them and they’re all the same
“Huzzah, Tim McVeigh is dead, let’s talk about the inherent problems in our prison system and then degenerate into a death penalty/morality/government debate”
I’m suggesting that perhaps three or four of the six kajillion McVeigh threads could have been consolidated into one, jolly bonfire of discussion and joyful, vengeful glee.
Discuss the motherfucker all you want…knock yourself out. I fully abide by the rule if you don’t want to read it, don’t…I’m just saying that someone would probably raise a stink if they opened up the straight dope and saw this under current threads:
My balls itch!
Let’s talk about itchy balls!
Itchy balls give me a clitboner!
Itchy balls…yes or no?
Who’s got itchy balls?
It’s just a little bit on this side of insane. I’ve been ridden out of town on a rail for starting a discussion about something that was brought up a year ago, and yet we can have 6,000 threads on the same issue on the same day and no one says a word? Odd.
