This doctor is not prescribing it to those who are not seriously ill, yet all those (seriously ill patients) become symptom free with HCQ
clinical trials are going on elsewhere and the results will require weeks and months to come out hence I am not asking this question to this doctor
Yeah, the 10,000th U.S. COVID-19 death has almost certainly happened already; it just hasn’t made it into the stats yet.
Did she have a lot to say? 
Well, yes, but she changes from day to day.
Breaking (good) news from Austria! Residents of other places may want to take note, as this could be a preview of what’s to come if your society does things right.
An hour-long press conference with the chancellor, vice-chancellor, health minister, and interior minister has just concluded. According to them, because Austria started its coronavirus containment measures much earlier than most countries, and because the population has been complying with them very well, the situation here has markedly improved. The daily rise in the number of new cases has sunk to 1.6%, and the doubling time for new infections has increased from every 3.6 days in mid-March to every 16.5 days in the last week. The replication factor still hasn’t sunk below 1 (it’s currently around 1.14), though all told Austria has recorded the best improvement among all countries in the European Union.
As a result, the government has put forth a plan to gradually relax the lockdown. Starting on 14 April, all home improvement stores will be allowed to open, as well as all small retail stores (i.e., those with less than 400 m² of floor space). From 1 May, all other retail and service stores (except restaurants) can open. From 15 May, hotels and restaurants will gradually be allowed to open. All this is conditional on everyone continuing to adhere to the existing restrictions on movement (i.e., no leaving the house except to do necessary shopping, to go to work if remote working is not feasible, to help others who cannot help themselves, and to do limited exercise), as well as on strict new measures to enforce social distancing in the shops, including mandatory face coverings and capacity limits of 1 customer per 20 m² of floor space. The chancellor stresses that this plan can be paused or even rolled back at any moment if the number of new infections starts to rise again, as already happened in Singapore after its relaxation of the rules.
Schools and universities will remain closed for in-person classes, though distance learning will continue and school-leaving exams will still take place, with arrangements to be announced in a later press conference.
The mandatory use of face coverings has been extended to public transport; violators will be subject to a fine of €50. The government did not, as some feared, make use of the Red Cross tracking app a legal requirement, though it is strongly encouraging everyone to use it. There are as yet no plans to reopen the federal parks; the matter will be revisited after Easter.
Despite earlier announcing that a special exception would be made for Easter Monday allowing families to hold a small home gathering (up to five guests), the chancellor, vice-chancellor, interior minister, and health minister all repeatedly implored people today not to hold such gatherings.
In stark contrast to what I’ve observed from press briefings in the United States and elsewhere, the Austrian government is taking its own recommendations on social distancing very seriously and practising them very conspicuously. Today’s press conference featured four widely spaced podiums, each of which was enclosed in a plexiglass booth, and showed technical staff carefully measuring the distance between them. The four cabinet members entered the room wearing face masks and did not remove them until they were in place in the booths and ready to speak. Unlike in the US and in the UK, where senior officials have been caught dismissing or even flouting the rules, no such scandals have occurred in Austria. (The worst case I’ve read about was a backbench opposition MP in one of the state legislatures who was caught attending a “coronavirus party”.)
Yay, psychonaut! Great news! We could use some hope. 
Some good news:
Researchers have a way to sterilize masks so they can be reused.
They are developing ways using AI and chest/lung xrays to diagnose the virus. Hopefully this will go to help solve the problem of not enough people being tested.
Obviously we are not out of this yet but these will go further to help.
There’s a simple solution to all this. As we saw when Covid tests were almost impossible to obtain, the uber-rich and famous shoved their way to the front of the lines and got them, since they are more equal than the rest of us peasants. Seems simple enough to do the same with this drug. Let the movie and sports stars, along with the uber-rich muscle their way ahead of us to get this “cure”, and then watch their social media accounts to track how well it performs. Sorry if I’m cynical, but it would make for great clinical trials without losing any essential members of society should things go wrong.
My eldest reports that impromptu shutdowns of ATC centers and towers (due to positive Covid tests) are not a huge problem since so few are in the air now. In one case, the jetliners simply sorted themselves into the traffic pattern via radio calls after a tower shut down. In another, he reports an entire ARTCC (traffic ctrl center handling hi altitude flights through large areas) was shut down. So they descended below 10,000 feet and picked their way along using lo altitude airways and contacting towers along the way. He said it’s weird doing cross country flights like he used to do in a Cessna, but in a 767.
Your responses in this thread show the dangers of promoting a medicine based on a hunch. Everybody is universally replying, “good: let’s get these trials going and get good science as quickly as we can.” But you are insisting that it’s worth doing because it might work. Now, it might, but know that people are reacting exactly as you are but with all sorts of other substances: methanol, urine, the garlic I mentioned above, and not all of them work. People have died from self-medicating like this. Adding unnecessary deaths over the top because you’re too impatient to wait for the science is immoral and unethical.
My father is at serious risk, too, and I’m sure as hell not going to suggest he take this on a whim. I’m telling him to stay home and reduce his risks of contagion to as near zero as possible.
In other words - you’re taking the word of this guy (who, yes, is a medical doctor) without any form of proof to back up his theories. Because no with an MD has ever been wrong.
:rolleyes:
Don’t get me wrong - I hope this drug works out. But your unquestioning acceptance smacks more of wishful thinking to me than actual medicine.
NYC using parks as temp burial sites.
That is a last resort contingency, not something currently happening.
Of interest: I’ve been watching the stats at worldometers and while our absolute numbers of confirmed cases are still growing, the relative percentage is slowing somewhat. I don’t know what our current estimated doubling rate is. On April 5th we had about 25,000 new cases (total 336,000), on the 4th we had 34,000 (total 311,000).
I entered recent US total numbers into Excel - and while weekend figures are likely skewed due to processing delays etc. the day to day increases hit a high on March 24th (38% from the day before) and were 8% on April 5th. I did a rolling percentage increase comparing to 4 days earlier, and 4/5’s percentage was 56 percent (comparing 4/5 to 4/1) while comparing March 22 to March 18 it was 265%; the 4 day rolling average for the days leading up to 4/5 gradually decreased from 110 (on 3/29) to 91, 81, 73, 70, 69, 65 and 59%.
I can’t find the numbers for New York on that site (could have sworn they used to have state-level graphs). It would be very enlightening to see whether NY numbers parallel the national trends.
An imposter, then. 
Help me out here but to do the test you basically need the correct ingredients, access to a lab and equipment, and know how to do the test?
Well then couldnt say a rich person with an access to a personal doctor who then has access to a personal lab, then a personal chemist, be able to do the test themselves?
I mean are we talking rich people pushed to the head of the line of a local testing company or did they do it privately? Both of which annoy me but if I was as rich as Bezos I certainly would.
I am reading all kinds of stories about how rich people are doing things like living out on their yachts to going to bug out places to having staff move in with them so I think its plausible.
Whenever I read about these people pushing this unproven treatment, I can only think of thalidomide.
Not quite “unproven”, many are saying it can be part of a treatment regimen. But thinking it cures or it prevents is going a bit too far.
This is why we cant have nice things:
Yes folks, it isnt those “wet markets” in china, or viruses- it’s 5G wireless telephone service that causes Covid 19!!! :eek::rolleyes::dubious:
Bullshit, of course.
Well, says they’re contemplating it. However, I think a more sensible headline would read “Mandatory Cremation Planned for COVID-19 Victims.” Meat worship funerals are something we really can’t afford in a pandemic. Cremate the victims, and the families can bury a coffin with an urn in it at some later date if they’re really adamant about it.