So… outdoor seating, tables seating no more than 6 people 6 feet away from other tables and from high traffic areas, have a masked server quickly drop off your food/drink and then run away? No standing customers, no lingering in passageways, directional signs where possible.
ThelmaLou, San Antonio has been averaging only 150 cases per day for the past two weeks. Now a little over a month ago, we were 10X as much. So, even if we’re being conservative and say that people may be walking around for 5 days, we’d have about 1 per 200. For now, that is. Things will almost certainly change if all the public schools open in the next few weeks.
Yeah, I got that. I think Mayor Ron is doing an excellent job. And our fellow citizens are being pretty sensible.
I apologize if you took my post as being supportive of opening up Wisconsin bars – I’m not. For all the reasons that you, and other posters, listed, bars (especially indoors) are likely to be high-risk locations. I understand why many people in Wisconsin strongly wanted bars to re-open, but I think that it’s a really bad idea.
As far as schools, I didn’t mention them at all, so I’m not sure why you’re asking me about them. For the record, I think that schools are really problematic – yes, absolutely, kids need socializing, remote learning is a very uneven solution (and particularly penalizing for poor kids), and many parents who work rely on the fact that their kids are in school all day. On the other hand, kids are by no means immune to the disease (and even if they’re asymptomatic, they can spread it to others), many adults who work in schools are in higher-risk categories, and I think it’s foolish to believe that we can expect kids (particularly younger kids) to religiously obey social distancing, wash/sanitize their hands regularly, keep their masks on all the time, etc. Schooling is one area where I really think there’s no good solution right now.
Yep. Mayor Ron is a good egg.
Here in Dallas, we are about to get the SMU wave. I had a coworker go pick his son up at the dorms today, after a positive diagnosis. Yay.
Same hour I heard that, my mom calls to tell me my nephew at U of Alabama is symptomatic but won’t get tested because , I dunno, reasons? He’s a little jerk. He probably doesn’t want to quarrentine.
So, anecdote isn’t data, but two calls in one drive home seems like a lot.
The University of Alabama is one of a lot of schools that has (probably predictably) seen a big outbreak of cases. Through Thursday of last week, they were reporting 1201 cases among students at Tuscaloosa, and another 166 among faculty and staff. Some students, meanwhile, are very unhappy about how the school is handling things.
I am soooo glad I’m teaching remote this fall. I think all the public universities and colleges in San Antonio are remote for the fall. Spring teaching is still a possibility though.
Do you know about Trinity?
Trinity U in San Antonio? I think I heard they are hybrid with a small set of students on campus. They have a CV19 dashboard:
https://sites.google.com/trinity.edu/trinityuniversitycovid-19/health-hub/covid-19-report
Sure: took the red pill, worked for Morpheus fighting the Matrix, etc.
Why?
I was responding to t-fletch, who teaches in San Antonio and said their public colleges were closed. Trinity is their rather good private liberal arts College.
It’s open at a lower capacity. They have to wear masks. I can’t find anything regarding temperature checks but you need a ProtecTU green badge so I think they must have them. Classes can’t be any more than 50 students. I’m assuming that’s lecture hall classes. Dorms are open for certain students. They have study halls that are supposed to promote social distancing.
Alamo Colleges were thinking about doing similar things and decided it would be a nightmare.
Lord. SMU has decided we are at “moderate” risk and is all but full steam ahead. Madness.
The Alamo Colleges smartly dumped the whole idea and only one college has dorms. They are open at a very, very limited capacity (10% of the whole school, something like that). Plexiglas separators are put in. They were planning to space the class times to allow cleaning. When they realized that the janitorial staff wouldn’t be able to handle it, they said the faculty would have to do it.
We were only going hybrid with science lectures remote and labs F2F. The way my schedule was set up, students would have to listen to remote class, then drive like crazy to make it to lab. We have a big adjunct office so they asked faculty whether we could let them use our office when we’re not there. I would have had to be there all day anyway because of how my labs and lectures were schedules.
Then there was the issue of how early to get there for temperature checks (my class started at 8 and they wanted us there 90 min before class to wait in a line). Also, what happens if a student refuses to wear a mask. I said, that I will call security and make them leave.
My mom is 90 yrs old and I help with my Dad take care of her 3-4 X a week (wearing a mask to their house). My department chair suggested I request full remote. By the time I turned in my request, the colleges dumped the whole idea. LOL.
I kind of like remote teaching. My students participate well. They even show up to my zoom office hours. The labs are virtual simulations or activities but not completely horrible in a pinch.
Right now, San Antonio has been downgraded to safe/moderate risk for the first time in two months. I’m happy to sit tight for the next four months and see what spring gives us.
25,904,164 total cases
861,251 dead
18,196,019 recovered
In the US:
6,257,571 total cases
188,900 dead
3,496,913 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
It now looks increasingly likely that we’ll prolly have more than 250,000 dead in the US from Covid-19 by Election Day.
I foresee an incredible spike in those numbers very soon thanks to Labor Day.
Except it won’t be soon. It will have to go through a wave of largely asymptomatic, healthy people who take it to less healthy people. Then another 3 weeks before we see death rate shift. We can’t beat COVID for the same reason we can’t lose weight: the feedback loop is too long and too subtle.
I think schools, especially incredibly reckless colleges, will be a bigger driver than Labor day. Also, weather shifts. I think there’s a strong argument that FL TX AZ were the big three in July because summer is when we go inside. The cold states are on the opposite schedule.