181,190,692 total cases
3,925,285 dead
165,778,491 recovered
In the US:
34,482,672 total cases
619,152 dead
28,897,460 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
From what I understand, the vaccines don’t make you immune from infection. The virus can still infect you, but the vaccination gives your body a huge headstart in fighting the virus by creating antibodies which can snap into action quickly. Vaccinated people who get infected typically are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. Often the infection is discovered through routine testing rather than the person feeling ill. A vaccinated person can still end up in the hospital or die, but the percentage is very low. My interpretation of the recommendation is that they were doing it to prevent serious complications to the unvaccinated people by reducing any possible transmission from vaccinated people. But certainly the possibility exists for vaccinated people to get COVID (or any virus) and die, so wearing a mask always provides a preventative benefit anyway.
My point is that you (perhaps inadvertently) presented yourself as being extremely risk-averse, when in point of fact the situation is not that clear-cut. You are selective as to what risks you take, based not on logic, but on your personal preferences. If your risk-aversion was based on logic, you would be tackling the biggest risks first, such as automobiles.
Nitpick: That would not be .083% but .83% - a bit under one percent.
Moderating:
You’ve gone way off topic for this thread, which is meant for breaking news related specifically to the COVID-19 pandemic. Please take your arguments to another forum if you wish to continue them.
Not a warning.
Thanks—corrections always appreciated.
I’m not sure if this should go here or in the Covidiot thread, but 16 people got COVID-19 after country-western dance near Show Low, organizers say. (Chances are fair that link is pay-walled, but I don’t have any way to know for sure.)
"At least 16 of about 70 people who attended a country-western dance in the Show Low area on June 11 have since developed COVID-19, event leaders say.
Most of those who contracted COVID-19 after attending the dance were not vaccinated, but some were, said Ken Baker, president of the White Mountain Rim Rompers Square Dance Club, a nonprofit group that hosted the dance. Baker started hearing reports of COVID-19 illness from attendees around June 16, he said."
"State health officials say they are aware of at least four potential COVID-19 outbreaks in Arizona involving 10 or more COVID-19 cases that began May 1 or later. "
181,550,029 total cases
3,932,768 dead
166,074,548 recovered
In the US:
34,490,134 total cases
619,343 dead
28,912,906 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
181,865,998 total cases
3,938,862 dead
166,385,636 recovered
In the US:
34,494,677 total cases
619,424 dead
28,927,335 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
Fewer than 100 dead in the US today.
whoops
Reassuring to those who are vaccinated. The Delta variant infected 100% of the unvaccinated attendees and 0% of the vaccinated ones.
Aye; Australia is doing a bit of hot-spot-stomping right now:
Honk Kong is banning air travel with the UK for the moment:
Thailand is also fighting a surge in cases:
One thing I’m surprised to find out is that Australia is really slow with the vaccine rollout. From that article:
After doing such a good job with the shutdowns and contact tracing, they really slacked off on getting vaccinated. They could have been ramping that up this whole time. With the rest of the world opening up and pandemic fatigue setting in, Australia could be in for some terrible outbreaks if 95% of their population is unvaccinated.
I would guess that in Australia, like most everywhere else, the limiting factor is obtaining an adequate supply of vaccine. I don’t think it’s all that hard to get it into willing arms, once the vaccine is available.
And I would guess they spent their covid-fighting dollars on containment, and not on bidding-the-most for earliest access to vaccine.
I’ve read reader comments suggesting that the Australian government thought it could stop COVID without the expense of buying vaccines. I don’t have a way to assess this, though.
No, at least not as official policy. There’s always been the knowledge that as the world begins opening up we need to have a vaccinated population or else will take a risk with every visitor every day forever.
Initial cause of the slow take-up was I think because of not wanting to be part of the scrum of nations with genuinely critical needs wanting the vaccines when these became available at the start of the year [at that time we regularly had 0 community cases]. There was also a lot invested [emotionally and $] in an Australian-developed vaccine, which seems to have worked well but has other medical issues.
Another factor is that the Federal govt was controlling distribution, and they’ve done it poorly. Critical targets [aged care, frontline workers etc] were identified but have not been properly done. Our Fed government is generally poor at delivery, and most health action is delivered by the states, but they were being side-stepped and have had issues about getting supply.
We’ve also picked up the vaccine hesitancy thing, and that has not been really well countered.
182,194,401 total cases
3,945,334 dead
166,758,134 recovered
In the US:
34,511,636 total cases
619,595 dead
28,962,849 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
Just to clarify this poorly worded sentence before anyone asks, the University of Queensland was working on a promising vaccine but testing showed it gave false positive readings for HIV for anyone taking it. There was a very reluctant decision made to not progress with it, although I believe work continues to fix the issue. In the context of the reply, it meant that a hoped-for local vaccine with no supply issues had to be abandoned at an advanced stage. More backstory here if interested.