Corporal Punishment should not be reintroduced in School?

Why do you think the Corporal Punishment should not be reintroduced in Schools?:wink:

Why do you think it should?

Before it is reintroduced, wouldn’t it have to go away? It’s still a thing in Texas, although parents can opt their kids out.

Because it’s brutal, hypocritical* and counterproductive.
*Yes, “don’t hit other people, but stand still while we hit you” is hypocritical.

Kids shouldn’t be hit, by parents or agents acting for the parents.

What red-blooded male doesn’t want to see kids being spanked?

I kid, I kid

Anecdotal, but I was told that some kids would just have competitions to see how many lashes they could get.

I remember pain being momentary when I was younger, but boredom lasted forever, which made detention or being sent to my room a lot more of a reason to avoid punishment.

Corporal punishment is basically ineffective as a tool for inducing pro-social behavior. Studies have shown that corporal punishment is correlated with increases almost every type of misbehavior other than “immediate compliance”.

The ONLY place it has been shown to work at all in psych studies is when done sparingly in the context of a generally non-physical set of disciplinary tools.

Contrariwise, more severe or continued corporal punishment is associated with a measurable rise in later-in-live mental illness (in the 2%-5% range, so I’m seeing).

The same arguments were commonplace, as the world’s great Navies began to discontinue flogging. The old-timers believed that only brutal physical discipline could maintain order on-board warships. The reformers suggested that more humane treatment could still result in tight ships and efficient crews.

History shows the reformers correct.

You tell us. And what’s the wink for? Is this a salacious comment of some sort?

I think it should be reintroduced in the schools.

Actions have consequences. And sometimes negative reinforcement teaches a lesson better than positive reinforcement.

As have been said before in this board. Negative reinforcement, is still reinforcement, which is different from punishment, please learn the difference.

Examples:

(+)reinforcement: If you do X I’ll give you Y. (where Y is something desirable)

(-)reinforcement: If you do X, you won’t have to do Y. (where Y is something undesirable)

(+)punishment: if you do (or don’t do) X, I’ll Give/Do Y to you (where Y is undesirable).

(-)punishment: if you do (or don’t do) X, you don’t get to do Y (where Y is desirable).

Brutal physical disciplin could never maintain order on ships on its own. It took rum and sodomy as well.

That’s the practical problem with corporal punishment, unless the public schools want a massive exodus out of them they’ll need an opt-out option and if they do have an opt-out option it will create two standards of justice for students,

Except that the lessons it teaches are “violence is a valid method of getting what you want”, “the powerful have the right to brutalize those weaker than them”, and “those in authority are enemies to be hated and destroyed”.

That is why it would be used.

Well, no, considering that the logical end result of that line of thinking is waylaying your teacher and clubbing him to death. Or in later years, a general willingness to use violence against authority and to prey upon others.

And that is the result. Unfortunately.

And it was a pisser when they took away the rum.

They use it at my children’s schools. I have always opted my kids out.

So, if you want it, move to Mississippi. Or Texas, as someone mentioned.