It was and it did. He came from behind and tried to get hold on her but she shrugged him off and ran away.
Yes and no.
First, understand that taking a self defense class does not make one “trained”. It will make you more aware and give you one or two options in case of an attack.
To be trained, one would need years of hard work and devotion in some style of martial arts. I have three women in my school who have achieved Black Belt ranking. I have confidence that any one of them would hand a male attacker his ass, and more importantly, so do they.
It doesn’t have to be a “freak haymaker”. She could see it coming from a mile away and block it or take it on the shoulder and it would still be like getting hit with a 40lb bag of flour. He could swing wildly and almost never connect his fist with her head and yet it would sap her ability to keep her balance and even raise her arms.
I couldn’t find anything in Google News Archives. I would guess it’s either an urban legend or you are just mis-remembering something you saw in a movie or on television.
Or the Archive just doesn’t include 20-year-old Swedish newspapers.
I think something like that would have been reported outside of Sweden.
Anyway, if it happened but was not reported on in the English-speaking world, how did Floater hear about it? (Assuming of course that he is not Swedish).
And of course, even if something like this is reported, I would want to look and see if there is any evidence besides the self-serving claims of the victim. As I alluded to upthread, it’s very common for people wildly exaggerate when relaying personal anecdotes. Was the attacker caught and arrested? Was he injured? Were there witnesses?
My much smaller sister, half my weight and a good five inches shorter is a law enforcement officer. I have no training. She easily bests me in friendly “take-downs”, which was not true before she had the training and would frequently provoke the “tickle monster”.
I’m about an average-sized guy, thirty years old, and I’ve no doubt that a smaller woman who knew what she was doing could absolutely take me apart. But I’m an extreme case - the last time I threw a punch in anger was grade eight, and I’ve no martial arts training or interest at all. I can’t imagine the circumstances in which I might start a fight - if that hypothetical trained woman is fighting me, she almost certainly started it at a time and place of her choosing, and I’m begging her to leave me alone while I scream for help and try to run away. I’d be terrified, and I’d be panicking.
This goes back to the “killer instinct” mentioned before. If you’re a sheltered couch potato all sorts of people can kick your ass, even if you’re big and kind of strong, because not only do you lack any sort of training you also lack aggressiveness, situational awareness, pain tolerance, and killer instinct.
Again, what’s the goal of the fight? Why is the untrained guy attacking the trained woman? What does he want? Is he a vicious natural born killer, or an entitled douchebag?
So how many advantages do the people on either side have?
The guy with more buddies has an advantage
The bigger guy has an advantage
The guy with a weapon has an advantage
The guy who gets in a sneak attack has an advantage
The guy with killer instinct has an advantage
The guy who with a high pain tolerance has an advantage
The guy with faster reflexes has an advantage
The guy who doesn’t obliviously wander into dangerous situations has an advantage
The guy with more training has an advantage
Training is just one advantage among many.
Firstest with the mostest.
From behind with two .45’s seems to work well.
Why do you even care, now that he has clarified (which, IMO, he should have done from the beginning) that she did not beat him up; she was just able to make him let go so she could run away. Big whoop.
However, here is an article you might find interesting. Two young muggers assaulted a 76-year old man, and he put them both down.
Unfortunately, we have only the victim’s word for it, but it sounds plausible, because his name was Jack Dempsey.
A long time ago in a far away place I used to be young, wore a uniform, drank in sleazy bars, was the biggest guy there & the little tough guys who just wanted a fight for what ever reason always picked me.
Them, “I’m going to whip your ass big guy just because I can.”
Me, “Please don’t.”
Them, “You are a coward.”
Me, “Yes I am.”
Them, "Your mother (Seemed to have done everything & they knew it all) "
Me, “Shrug.”
This goes on for a while, & then when they realize that I will not fight, I have never yet found a guy who does not turn away in disgust. I have won everyone of those fights, usually with the use of a full beer bottle. There is no such thing as a fair fight in my world.
I do not go to sleazy bars anymore & I have much better situational awareness now.
I take my chances every day that some well trained person is going to attack me for no reason that I can see & be quicker quicker than I can use my CCW weapon. A fella can’t be 100% safe all the time. Besides if I do lose, while I am doing that my wife will have avenged me before I even hit the ground. Bawahahaha
Whoever is interested, google Ronda Rousey, or better yet, YouTube some of her fights. She is a badass judoka and quite easy on the eyes. I know I wouldn’t wanna try and defend her armbar.
Kinda my point. I think some people are just assuming that a woman is at a nearly insurmountable disadvantage even against a man her own size. This is true only to the extent that men are more likely to have fighting experience or greater athleticism. But if we assume little fighting experience and no athleticism, there’s no reason he should have an innate advantage.
Ronda Rousey vs. Meat Loaf? I know who I’d bet on.
Right but that stacks the deck. That’s not a trained woman vs an untrained man, that’s a trained, fit, aggressive, motivated woman vs a lazy fat slob.
All right, how about Rousey vs. a professional boxer of similar size?
I still say Rousey, because boxers tend to do extremely poorly against trained fighters, even smaller fighters, with grappling skills. And very few untrained men have any grappling skills to speak of.
Now I agree that those self-defense courses and Tae Kwon Do and such, it creates fit women who wouldn’t last 30 seconds against an even untrained, but determined, male opponent. But a woman who learns actually useful fighting skills, like female MMA fighters, I think they can easily beat any man their size or even a little larger if he is not trained.
It’s like any other sport. While a professional female will never beat even the lowest ranked males, they tend to dominate against people who are not professionals. Go to your local college and challenge any of the females to matches at whatever their specialty is, whether tennis, basketball, softball, etc., and you’ll find that just showing up with your Y chromosome is not nearly enough to get you the win.
Those sports don’t have weight classes
When I was wrestling in high school in 215 pound bracket I could routinely beat state champions up to the 160 pounds and I could barely get to regionals myself.
In most cases the sheer weight is just too much to overcome.
Not even close, a male boxer of equal size would kill her. She’s good, don’t get me wrong, but a trained male boxer would have a huge strength advantage and probably a speed advantage.
Yes he would, because regardless of size men have a lot more muscle mass than women.
I thought of Floyd Mayweather immediately when I saw this. He outweighs her by about 10 pounds, I think her next fight is at 135(Bantam). Under certain circumstances I might even bet on her if those two met in an Octagon.