So is this series going to lead to a true reboot or a return to the multiverse?
The only difference between the costume Jason wore when kicking the crap out of Tim and the one he wore as Robin is that he’s wearing yellow tights. Which does mean that it bears a vague resemblance to Earth-2 Robin’s costume (or, rather, as I look for a picture to use for comparison, one of Robin-2’s costumes - it bears even less resemblance to the other two), but only a very vague one.
And speculating that it’s a different Jason ignores the fact that he knows about the real Jason, and has always identified himself with him. In his fight with Tim, for instance, they end up in the room with the statues of dead Titans, and he complains that there’s no statue of him. ‘I was a Titan too!’
There’s no good reason to believe this is another universe’s Jason Todd, rather than Jason back from the dead.
True reboot, no. In a few months, every title (well, all those that take place in the current-day DCU, Jonah Hex is safe) is going to jump ahead “One Year Later” in continuity. The last few issues of the Infinite Crisis miniseries, as well as an upcoming weekly series called 52 will fill us in on what happened during the missing year.
DC’s still playing their cards close to their chest regarding what the new universe will look like. Some big name books with heroes thought likely to croak in the Crisis (Flash, Wonder Woman) are being cancelled and it’s not yet clear if and when they’ll be brought back and who will be wearing the costume if they do. Hell, they’ve been careful no to say if Batman is still Bruce Wayne. Other books are being retitled and given new leads (Hawkman will soon become Hawkgirl, Aquaman will soon become Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis). And some new heroes are popping up (Blue Beetle).
But what we do know makes it clear that things won’t be started over again, and that continuity from before Infinite Crisis carries over at least mostly intact.
As for the multiverse, we don’t know yet. I know at least one character from an alternate Earth survives the coming Crisis But Power Girl is a special case, since she already survived the first Crisis intact
But it isn’t, as there is some alternating between Earth-One and Earth-Two in the Bat titles for about a year. Just because something appeared in the previous issue doesn’t mean it’s in continuity in the universe of the next one. It’s likely, but not a foregone conclusion.
It’s not a matter of what I want. You’re taking as a given, proven fact something that is, though highly likely, not 100% guaranteed. And if you want BBVL (frex) to accept that he is “wrong” then it’s up to you to prove the correlation beyond a shadow of his doubt.
There’ve been worse retcons.
BBVL has a very valid point that the Batman-2 of the post War era seems to be a radically different person than the original, in terms of personality.
One more thing : It’s not a matter of right or wrong when you’re talking about a fictional universe where history gets rewritten on a weekly basis.
Batman also dug up Jason’s coffin and found it empty, and, in fact, found no evidence that Jason was ever in it.
That, too.
I thought this was the reason.
Ya know, I’ve heard rumors about entire genres of fiction where an argument like this just wouldn’t make sense.
I loves me the comic books. 
You know you’ve been reading Superhero comics too long when you have to have the fact a statement like that is a little strange pointed out to you… :eek: :o 
I have to admit: thi sis why I don’t like DC.
In Marvel, there’s not nearly so much fiddling with continuity. Sometimes they retcon things, but they don’t dump their heroes into a limbo of 50 sometimes-alternate, somtimes-identical versions.
Um, except when they do. They’ve got quite a collection of alternate earths and possible futures themselves. There’s at least 616 of them, IIRC.
And then there’s the Ultimates line…
Yeah. That might have been true back in the 1970’s, but now Marvel’s worse than DC, if anything.
… at least DC hasn’t come up with “Zombie Crisis.”
Yet.
Hey, I LIKE Marvel Zombies! It’s funny and has great writing! It feeds my brain!
Marvel Zombies is bloody great.
Yeah, but the alternate timelines usually aren’t fighting each other for canon supremacy. And they didn’t have to cobble together the main Earth-616 from the decades of backstory making up Earths “6,” “A,” and “227.”
Nice!
Sadly, when I read Tengu’s post, instead of thinking how silly the concept was, I thought to myself, “Tengu makes an interesting argument!”
Marvel’s retcons are in many ways worse than DC continuity gaps. DC sort of makes sense to some degree. Marvel’s retcons, on the other hand, are often born of them cosntantly switching out writers who could care less what previous writers thought or intended. I mean, look at Magneto. This core X-Man villian has been so inconsistent as a character, has gone from a simple backstory to one that’s insanely confusing and still unresolved, with lots of bizarre elements that were introduced and then dropped unexplained.
If the recent insanity at DC has taught me anything, it’s that my onetime idea of a horrible horror revision of the X-Men that’d destroy everything X-Fans love really would be a bad idea not only financially, but artistically.
Well-written? Compared to what, ramen soup preparation instructions?
To be fair, it’s not like Marvel had the decades of backstory that DC did. DC had “continuity drift” to explain, and came up with a novel way to explain it.
As to fighting each other for canon supremacy… Age of Apocalypse - Nate Grey and Holocaust hung around, and the alternate Hank McCoy even replaced ours for awhile; House of M - I’m not reading it, but it’s being used to justify a number of little changes. And of course, there’s Exiles, one of Marvel’s best series.
And the New Universe, which had a few interactions with the mainstream Marvel U. And the ever-shifting Marvel “Future” continuity. And the Squadron Supreme.
And so on.