Why would each individual have to be specifically equally bonded with every other individual for the polyfidelitous relationship to be valid? How do you measure the “equality” of two relationships?
Except you’re not ONLY doing that, you are ALSO insulting the people involved and painting them all with a very broad and offensive brush, repeatedly and unnecessarily. That’s what most people here seem to be bothered by.
As evidenced by the fact that there are several people who would dial the friendship back and have said so in this thread who aren’t drawing ANY argument from those of us who are arguing with Dio. It’s not the distaste he has, it’s his blanket condemnations of and condescension toward non-dyad relationships. Also his sexist attitudes toward both men and women.
Stopped reading a few pages ago but I figured I’d check things out: Has Dio provided any cites (he seems to love demanding cites), not anecdotes but scientific studies (those are his favorite cites), that show that members of [del]polyamorous groups and swinger couples[/del] horseshit slavery rings can’t love one another and that they’re a result of [del]men[/del] pigs victimizing their [del]female partners[/del] incestually-abused fucktoys? Including setups where the females are the only ones who have multiple partners? What about a polyamorous group comprised of gay men? Or lesbian women? Or does he think that gay men and lesbian women are incapable of using one another?
Is that the guy from Love Line? I used to listen to those guys on the drive home every night. Love that show! Though according to him it’s likely that I was sexually abused and as far as I know I wasn’t.
That’s him. He was always right on the money when he said they’d been abused. It was uncanny. He could also tell them if they’d had an alcoholic parent or an abndoning dad, or whatever. He was like 100%. I don’t think I ever heard him guess wrong.
But the only people you’d hear him talking to were people who had issues and had to call in for advice. I have a friend and she and her girlfriend are swingers and they seem otherwise normal. On OkCupid there are a shit-ton of women who have normal relationships except that they (and not their male partners) are allowed to have sex (typically lesbian but not always) outside the relationship. I just think it’s really silly to say that all (or even most) polyamorous/swinging couples are the result of abuse (either by parents or by possessive/domineering male partners).
That you can look at a lesbian couple who are polyamorous and say that they’re OK but look at a heterosexual couple and say that the man is abusing his SO is sexist and trying to use your feminist wife as a qualifier doesn’t help your case. That’s like saying “Oh, don’t worry, I have a black friend”. Just because your wife calls herself a feminist doesn’t mean that she’s incapable of being wrong or sexist herself and it certainly doesn’t mean that you can’t be wrong or sexist. I’d be willing to wager that even if she didn’t tolerate misogynism from you she’d probably be OK with man-hating sexism the likes of which you’ve displayed in this thread.
Between this thread and the other one (about the 20 something year old guy wondering if he should marry his girlfriend), you’re a veritable wise man when it comes to human relations, AClockworkMelon. I’m impressed.